PROMO: Move SPG points to AA: 25-35% bonus thru June 30
Jun 14, 2010, 11:29 am
#16
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Wow - I've been waiting for just such a promo! This is great!
Two questions:
1 - Is anyone sure this isn't targeted? Has anyone who did NOT receive the email been able to take advantage of it?
2 - Does the fact that Starwood isn't listed on that linked page present a potential problem? The page says "eligible AAdvantage program hotel participants" and then has a list that does include hotels like Sheraton, but not Starwood specifically.
Two questions:
1 - Is anyone sure this isn't targeted? Has anyone who did NOT receive the email been able to take advantage of it?
2 - Does the fact that Starwood isn't listed on that linked page present a potential problem? The page says "eligible AAdvantage program hotel participants" and then has a list that does include hotels like Sheraton, but not Starwood specifically.
Jun 14, 2010, 11:32 am
#17
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Wow - I've been waiting for just such a promo! This is great!
Two questions:
1 - Is anyone sure this isn't targeted? Has anyone who did NOT receive the email been able to take advantage of it?
2 - Does the fact that Starwood isn't listed on that linked page present a potential problem? The page says "eligible AAdvantage program hotel participants" and then has a list that does include hotels like Sheraton, but not Starwood specifically.
Two questions:
1 - Is anyone sure this isn't targeted? Has anyone who did NOT receive the email been able to take advantage of it?
2 - Does the fact that Starwood isn't listed on that linked page present a potential problem? The page says "eligible AAdvantage program hotel participants" and then has a list that does include hotels like Sheraton, but not Starwood specifically.
2. Sheraton = Starwood
Jun 14, 2010, 11:33 am
#18
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I don't think the Free Weekend/Sheraton 1000 miles will post until way after this promotion ends on 6/30. The Free Weekend/Sheraton 1000 miles promo goes until 7/31 and T&C's state: "Bonus miles will post to your AAdvantage® account 4–6 weeks after the promotion has ended."
Jun 14, 2010, 12:04 pm
#19
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I did it with N&F today so we'll see how it shakes out...
Jun 14, 2010, 12:25 pm
#20
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Jun 14, 2010, 12:38 pm
#21
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From the N&F T&Cs:
Travel Award Change & Cancel Policies
It is the member's responsibility to change or cancel any flight arrangements made for this award.
If hotel availability allows a date change on the Free Night Award reservation for a Nights & Flights award, the Nights & Flights award dates may be changed.
No Starpoints will be refunded for any portion of the Nights & Flights award's free nights not stayed at the property. Members who elect to stay fewer nights than the required 5 nights stay for the Nights & Flights award offer should advise the hotel at check-in to avoid any early departure charges.
Nights & Flights awards may be canceled. If a Nights & Flights award is canceled, the member will only receive a Starpoint credit of 20,000 for a Category 3 and 30,000 for a Category 4 Travel Award. The 40,000-point airline transfer, plus the 10,000-point bonus from Starwood Preferred Guest, will remain as airline miles and cannot be returned to the member's Starwood Preferred Guest account.
Guest will not receive Starpoints or airline miles for their reservation; therefore, a Nights & Flights Award stay does not qualify as an eligible stay toward earning elite level or toward any promotions requiring nights or stays.
Jun 14, 2010, 1:09 pm
#22
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With Nights & Flights, you have to book a 5-night hotel stay at a Cat3 or Cat4 property. If you later decide not to use that stay, you can reschedule it (if availability exists and you abide by any change/cancellation deadlines) or you can cancel it altogether. If you cancel the hotel portion, the points for the hotel portion (20K - 30K) of the N&F award are redeposited into your account.
From the N&F T&Cs:
Travel Award Change & Cancel Policies
It is the member's responsibility to change or cancel any flight arrangements made for this award.
If hotel availability allows a date change on the Free Night Award reservation for a Nights & Flights award, the Nights & Flights award dates may be changed.
No Starpoints will be refunded for any portion of the Nights & Flights award's free nights not stayed at the property. Members who elect to stay fewer nights than the required 5 nights stay for the Nights & Flights award offer should advise the hotel at check-in to avoid any early departure charges.
Nights & Flights awards may be canceled. If a Nights & Flights award is canceled, the member will only receive a Starpoint credit of 20,000 for a Category 3 and 30,000 for a Category 4 Travel Award. The 40,000-point airline transfer, plus the 10,000-point bonus from Starwood Preferred Guest, will remain as airline miles and cannot be returned to the member's Starwood Preferred Guest account.
Guest will not receive Starpoints or airline miles for their reservation; therefore, a Nights & Flights Award stay does not qualify as an eligible stay toward earning elite level or toward any promotions requiring nights or stays.
From the N&F T&Cs:
Travel Award Change & Cancel Policies
It is the member's responsibility to change or cancel any flight arrangements made for this award.
If hotel availability allows a date change on the Free Night Award reservation for a Nights & Flights award, the Nights & Flights award dates may be changed.
No Starpoints will be refunded for any portion of the Nights & Flights award's free nights not stayed at the property. Members who elect to stay fewer nights than the required 5 nights stay for the Nights & Flights award offer should advise the hotel at check-in to avoid any early departure charges.
Nights & Flights awards may be canceled. If a Nights & Flights award is canceled, the member will only receive a Starpoint credit of 20,000 for a Category 3 and 30,000 for a Category 4 Travel Award. The 40,000-point airline transfer, plus the 10,000-point bonus from Starwood Preferred Guest, will remain as airline miles and cannot be returned to the member's Starwood Preferred Guest account.
Guest will not receive Starpoints or airline miles for their reservation; therefore, a Nights & Flights Award stay does not qualify as an eligible stay toward earning elite level or toward any promotions requiring nights or stays.
Jun 14, 2010, 1:34 pm
#23
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Jun 14, 2010, 1:39 pm
#24
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Yes, I called up AA as my wife did not receive the email. It is not targeted nor do you need to sign up. The rep. did elaborate that the June 30th deadline date applied to when the hotel partners actually made the request to convert the points to AA so for example if Starwood received your request on June 29th and didn't make the transfer to AA until July 1st, you'd be out of luck with the 25/35% bonus.
Jun 14, 2010, 1:52 pm
#25
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Worth mentioning that you could transfer SPG->AA for the 35% bonus, then turn around and transfer those into HHonors...
Jun 14, 2010, 1:55 pm
#26
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Awesome, thanks for posting this; I had not yet opened the email from AA.
This is perfect ! I was planning to transfer some SPG and Diners points to AA this year to clinch MM status and this promo reduces the # of Starwood points that need to be sacrificed to that cause.
This is perfect ! I was planning to transfer some SPG and Diners points to AA this year to clinch MM status and this promo reduces the # of Starwood points that need to be sacrificed to that cause.
Jun 14, 2010, 2:52 pm
#27
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Nights & Flights points transferred to an airline just look like regular hotel points on the receiving (airline) end. There's no way for the airline to know that it was a N&F based transfer and not a regular points-only transfer. Confirmed this with the SPG PLT Concierge desk last night setting up my N&F booking with a transfer to US for 50% bonus.
Jun 14, 2010, 3:46 pm
#28
Join Date: Jul 2005
Programs: AA gold, SPG Plat,
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So what's the difference?
Transfer 40k SPG to AA & you get 50k AA +35% bonus
Or
Book Night and flights for 60k
40k SPG becomes 50k deposit at AA
20k used for hotel. Cancel hotel and get 20k refund
Either way, don't you spend 40k spg for 50k aa?
Doesn't it work out the same if you are going to cancel the res. anyway?
Transfer 40k SPG to AA & you get 50k AA +35% bonus
Or
Book Night and flights for 60k
40k SPG becomes 50k deposit at AA
20k used for hotel. Cancel hotel and get 20k refund
Either way, don't you spend 40k spg for 50k aa?
Doesn't it work out the same if you are going to cancel the res. anyway?
Jun 14, 2010, 5:10 pm
#30
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