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adventurous Feb 18, 2008 10:10 pm

No SA Plans to Welcome MacUsers
 
If you use a Mac, don't hold your breath waiting for Star Alliance to make their website work for you. I already asked.

DownUnderFlyer Feb 19, 2008 4:56 am


Originally Posted by adventurous (Post 9274207)
If you use a Mac, don't hold your breath waiting for Star Alliance to make their website work for you. I already asked.

First I thought SA is South African. But you meant *A. The problem with the Mac is the same with the Asiana website.

DJ Bitterbarn Feb 19, 2008 5:38 am

Just to play Devil's Advocate a bit, but Safari is a royal pain to design properly for. Not that it's a bad browser but as far as the average web designer goes, there is no easy way from a Windows platform to test for it. Setting up a separate UNIX/Mac system with KHTML is one of those things that many designers may just avoid. A lot of designers ignore Opera for this reason as well, even if there is Win build of it.

Browser compatibility is at best irritating, but made even more so when there are no tools for your platform to test for a specific situation.

Standards! I thought we had these for a reason.

Milchbroetchen Feb 19, 2008 5:53 am


Originally Posted by DJ Bitterbarn (Post 9275289)
Just to play Devil's Advocate a bit, but Safari is a royal pain to design properly for. Not that it's a bad browser but as far as the average web designer goes, there is no easy way from a Windows platform to test for it. Setting up a separate UNIX/Mac system with KHTML is one of those things that many designers may just avoid. A lot of designers ignore Opera for this reason as well, even if there is Win build of it.

Browser compatibility is at best irritating, but made even more so when there are no tools for your platform to test for a specific situation.

That is just utter nonsense. You can download the Windows-version of Safari at the Apple website, so testing should not be the issue.
Additionally, if tested in Firefox (Standard, anyone?) 99% of all bugs are gone for Safari. So it really is just laziness of the *A website programmer.

But in reply to the OP: Maybe we should ask again (and again) so they realize there is a market and a customerinterest?

mahasamatman Feb 19, 2008 7:58 am


Originally Posted by DJ Bitterbarn (Post 9275289)
Standards! I thought we had these for a reason.

These days, standards only exist for Microsoft fo pervert and then claim that their standards violation is the new standard.

adventurous Feb 19, 2008 12:13 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 9275836)
These days, standards only exist for Microsoft fo pervert and then claim that their standards violation is the new standard.

Seems to be the case. I have Firefox, Safari, OmniWeb, and Opera, cannot use the *Alliance site.

WearyBizTrvlr Feb 19, 2008 3:23 pm

There is a Windows version of Safari now too, which should make testing it easier at least.

sentom Feb 19, 2008 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by adventurous (Post 9274207)
If you use a Mac, don't hold your breath waiting for Star Alliance to make their website work for you. I already asked.

i'm on a mac and have no problem with the *A website. :confused:

BiziBB Feb 19, 2008 3:57 pm

Maybe if Steve asks... ;)

Couldn't Apple employees, then the people who read Mac news sites, set up a lobby/pressure/petition site to embarrass *A or its web designer into action? :rolleyes:

A MS 'standard' is not a web standard!

adventurous Feb 19, 2008 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by sentom (Post 9278880)
i'm on a mac and have no problem with the *A website. :confused:

Which browser? I get:

Unexpected Error
staralliance.com has encountered an unexpected error <-2f3e0f20:1181bc62c36:-7aca>.
For some reason we cannot find the page you are looking for. We apologise for this. To move on, please try one of the following options:
View a complete list of all the entries on the sitemap link in the footer
Use the main navigation on top of this page to proceed
If all else fails, send an E-mail to [email protected] stating "error code"


So I emailed and they say they have no plans for a Mac-friendly version.

DJ Bitterbarn Feb 20, 2008 4:51 am


Originally Posted by adventurous (Post 9277484)
Seems to be the case. I have Firefox, Safari, OmniWeb, and Opera, cannot use the *Alliance site.

Firefox works fine for me on the *A site. Works great on almost every site so far, really. Haven't tested Opera, but I can do that tonight on the Wii. And if it works on the Wii, it should work on most things.

And as far as the comment on standards, I don't consider MS standards to be "standards". W3C and CSS standards, yes. Whatever hack-job IE is using now, no. But nobody conforms to W3C or CSS anyway, it seems. That said, a designer should at least test across as many browsers as possible. I am glad to hear there's a Safari for Win platforms now, though. Been a while since I've done a serious site design, but I'll try to test it next time I do something.

cpx Feb 20, 2008 5:09 am

If the site works on IE, does not mean it used standards. Someone used
MS tools to build so it works well with MS.. If they really followed standards
while building the web site, it should work on all browsers.

DJ Bitterbarn Feb 20, 2008 5:36 am

Assuming all other browsers follow those standards. Not trying to defend MS here, their "adherence" to standards is rubbish at best. But every browser has quirks. Sites that work well in FF don't in Safari, or Opera, etc.

sentom Feb 20, 2008 10:22 am


Originally Posted by adventurous (Post 9281056)
Which browser?

safari 3.0.4 with OS X 10.5.2 but i had no problems on older versions either. some of the flash stuff look a little weird but everything works as far as i can tell...

adventurous Feb 20, 2008 11:27 pm

Hey! I just tried Opera (after trying Safari and Firefox again) and it works!


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