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flyingstudent Nov 30, 2007 7:34 pm

Air China and Shanghai Airlines in Star Alliances
 
When I was in Shanghai (PVG) last week, I see Air China planes with Star Alliances stickers on them. The Star Alliance sign is next to Air China and Shanghai Airlines signs through the airport. When is CA and FM officially in the alliance?

henry999 Dec 1, 2007 12:40 am


Originally Posted by flyingstudent (Post 8817875)
When I was in Shanghai (PVG) last week, I see Air China planes with Star Alliances stickers on them. The Star Alliance sign is next to Air China and Shanghai Airlines signs through the airport. When is CA and FM officially in the alliance?

Closer and closer. They are both includable in the *A RTWs as of tomorrow, 2 Dec.

cheers,

Henry

tfung Dec 1, 2007 9:37 am

they should be full official members on december 12th

Kiwi Flyer Dec 1, 2007 3:05 pm

NZ's magazine Kia Ora says they are full members from 1 December. No promo though :td:

allset2travel Dec 1, 2007 5:33 pm

Called UA, trying to book an award trip on Air China to no avail. CSR did not know Air China is member of *A.
Still waiting for the official announcement.

mahasamatman Dec 1, 2007 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 8821068)
NZ's magazine Kia Ora says they are full members from 1 December.

Too bad the Alliance itself thinks otherwise. At least there's nothing on staralliance.com about them yet.

Xiaotung Dec 1, 2007 10:11 pm

Both FM and CA will become offical members on Dec. 12 at which time a welcome ceremony will be held in Beijing.

NZ inflight magazine didn't say Dec. 1. It only has a generic *A ad which already appeared in OZ timetable file a month ago. So there is still chance of promos. It would be interesting to see how well FM and CA cope with *A intergration. There are problems with China Southern entering SkyTeam all over the place.

bchl Dec 2, 2007 12:59 am

it wouldn't make sense to have December 1st as the entering date! 1.12 equals 1+1+2=4 which means phonetically death in the Chinese language :)

12.12 equals 1+2+1+2=6 = lucky number :)

similar to the entering date of CZ into Skyteam: 15.11 equals 1+5+1+1=6+2=8 = lucky number :)))

does it make sense now?

Btw my miles posted corrected from CZ toward AF Flying Blue. BUT they have decreased the minimum miles and the earning bonus dramatically.. So for a route under 500 Miles I was suppose to get 750 (minimum miles) * 300% for using F with CZ equals 2250 Miles each time I'm flying them. Now I'm ending up with 500 (minimum miles) * 150% equals 750 miles! That's the main reasons why I'm going to stop to fly CZ whenever I can and instead of fly CA/FM as often as possible since the mileage earning scheme is just simply a joke before and after entering Skyteam.

Just hope CA/FM wouldn't change their earning scheme AFTER joining *A

tfung Dec 2, 2007 7:47 am

I just read that CA has started flights going to Pongyang in North Korea... I can't wait to read a trip report from someone doing a MR there on a RTW ticket... :p

AHO Dec 2, 2007 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by bchl (Post 8822889)
it wouldn't make sense to have December 1st as the entering date! 1.12 equals 1+1+2=4 which means phonetically death in the Chinese language :)

12.12 equals 1+2+1+2=6 = lucky number :)

similar to the entering date of CZ into Skyteam: 15.11 equals 1+5+1+1=6+2=8 = lucky number :)))

does it make sense now?

Then it makes more sense if CA and FM joined on 14th Dec as 1+2+1+4=8.
Chinese loves number 8! :cool:
One chinese paid over 2.3 millions CNY for telephone number "88888888". (Aug 2003)

Kiwi Flyer Dec 2, 2007 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by tfung (Post 8823586)
I just read that CA has started flights going to Pongyang in North Korea... I can't wait to read a trip report from someone doing a MR there on a RTW ticket... :p

Not yet up on RTW calculator (though FNJ is accepted). Do you have dates/schedule?

Edited to add - I see the flights when searching in January (picked 21 Jan at random) so perhaps it is seasonal flight or only loaded for a short period? In the RTW mileage calculator tool it stops by end of March.

Xiaotung Dec 2, 2007 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by AHO (Post 8825320)
Then it makes more sense if CA and FM joined on 14th Dec as 1+2+1+4=8.
Chinese loves number 8! :cool:
One chinese paid over 2.3 millions CNY for telephone number "88888888". (Aug 2003)

You are right. I don't know if Boeing changed B7E7 to 787 just to land more Chinese orders. Also Beijing Olympics opening ceremony will start from 8:08 pm on 08/08/08. I would expect more promotion close to that date.

tfung Dec 2, 2007 5:23 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 8825814)
Not yet up on RTW calculator (though FNJ is accepted). Do you have dates/schedule?

Starting January 2nd, 3 times weekly on Monday Wednesday and Friday... do you really want to go? :)

http://english.gov.cn/2007-11/18/content_808646.htm

bchl Dec 2, 2007 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by AHO (Post 8825320)
Then it makes more sense if CA and FM joined on 14th Dec as 1+2+1+4=8.
Chinese loves number 8! :cool:
One chinese paid over 2.3 millions CNY for telephone number "88888888". (Aug 2003)

not quite correct :) Even if the end sum is a 8, the original numbers do include a "4", so 14.12. can't be done due to that fact!

ForeverCCA Dec 3, 2007 9:11 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 8825814)
Not yet up on RTW calculator (though FNJ is accepted). Do you have dates/schedule?

Edited to add - I see the flights when searching in January (picked 21 Jan at random) so perhaps it is seasonal flight or only loaded for a short period? In the RTW mileage calculator tool it stops by end of March.

There are more details/discussions on Air China's new service to Pyongyang at these threads:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754047

http://en.feeyo.com/posts/0/topic-2-363.html


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