How do you fly LON-NYC?
 

Sorry if my search skills aren't up to scratch, but I can't seem to find a decent answer.

Now that the UA flight is gone, how do you travel this route? KVS comes up with nothing screening on *A, though I haven't tried specific routings with AC or LH. Do you use a connection or just suck it up and fly BA/VS? I'm leaning towards BA for my next J class trip since I've never flown that.

Thanks,

Dr. PITUK

Not that it will be desirable (or not desirable), if Air India joins *A, that will be a direct link. (I believe they serve the JFK-LHR market).

Aside from that, I would take an IAD connection.

You can fly:

- UA from LHR through IAD or ORD
- AC from LHR through YYZ, YUL or YOW
- US from LGW through PHL or CLT
- LH from LHR or LCY (I think) through FRA

There are a few other ways but those are probably the most convenient.

Take LH from LHR to FRA then connect with SQ from FRA to JFK, or trying to convince Sir Richard Brandson to join the Star Alliance A.S.A.P. since SQ has 49% of VS's share.

I agree with the previous poster who advised to take LH to FRA, then SQ from FRA-JFK. It would certainly be a lovely way to travel!

Except the schedules don't work (at least in that direction).

Only do that route a couple of times a year, so just bite the bullet and take BA> Besides, it does make me some QF points.

Other good possibilities:
- LH from LHR via MUC
- LH from LHR via DUS (business class only, only in direction NYC-LHR)
- LX from LHR/LCY via ZRH/GVA
- TP from LHR via LIS (but I don't recommend this)

SmilingBoy.

Am I the only one that thinks its a joke that there are no nonstop *A flights between two of the world's biggest cities on the most heavily served international route???!

Yes, and UA is to blame. Only UA, AA, BA and VS have the rights to fly this route. bmi can't step in for UA's failure, and US can't either.

SmilingBoy.

how about flying LGW-PHL on US and taking a rental car/cab/Amtrak to Manhattan?

Not exactly. Those 4 airlines have LHR rights. I don't think people would complain if a *A carrier did LGW to JFK/EWR.

Thanks for this correction. This is of course true.

SmilingBoy.

Look at who flies to LON from NYC: setting aside AA, airlines who have a hub in NYC or LON. As far as AA is concerned, they benefit from BA's extensive network from LHR for connections, which makes their relatively high frequency on the route sustainable, which, in a virtuous circle, makes them more attractive to premium O&D pax. No *A airline is a comparable position. BD has a hub there, but it is a much smaller airline than BA. Moreover, many of its flights are single cabin, which makes the UA/BD combination much less attractive than AA/BA. So UA would be highly dependent on O&D traffic. For premium traffic, they are unattractive compared to BA/AA because of much lower frequency. They would have to compensate with a quality product. UA's product in premium classes is not especially distinguished (and that is being charitable :)) and they also have to compete with the Silverjet and Maxjets of this world for that traffic at the lower end of the market and EOS at the top end. No surprise then that they cannot sustain it.
DL and CO do fly from NYC to LGW, but both of them have hubs in NYC.
I am far from sure that BD would be able to sustain it either if the Open Skies agreement is eventually accepted. If BD and UA got together to offer a reasonable frequency between them on the route, then maybe they might just about pull it off, but based on past experience I have limited confidence on the willingness of UA to co-operate actively with BD, so I will not be holding my breath on this one.

I know one FTer who would have replied: LHR-SIN-SYD-SIN-NRT-LAX-JFK :p