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PTravel Jan 5, 2007 4:37 pm

Lounge access at PVG
 
We're flying PVG to Huangshan and back, and PVG to Harbin and back. The first trip is on China Eastern, the second on Shanghai Airlines. Is there any & Alliance lounge I can get into with my Red Carpert Club membership?

hclee01 Jan 6, 2007 9:47 am

You can view the lounge which allowed access to *G members when travelling on *A airlines in PVG at the following website:-
http://www.staralliance.com/int/int_..._map_large.gif

aerosmith Jan 6, 2007 9:54 am


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 6959129)
We're flying PVG to Huangshan and back, and PVG to Harbin and back. The first trip is on China Eastern, the second on Shanghai Airlines. Is there any & Alliance lounge I can get into with my Red Carpert Club membership?

If you are not flying on a *A carrier, your RCC membership will not be able to allow you access to the *G lounges in PVG. The 2 airlines you mentioned are not *A carriers.

Take heart that Shanghai Airlines will join *A in a matter of time. ^

itsme Jan 7, 2007 10:56 am

lounges in other cities; access for UA 1Ks
 

Originally Posted by hclee01 (Post 6962716)
You can view the lounge which allowed access to *G members when travelling on *A airlines in PVG at the following website:-
http://www.staralliance.com/int/int_..._map_large.gif

Thanks, this link is helpful, especially since I don't see directions to it on the *Alliance website, though it must be there somewhere. My daughter is returning home from PVG on an ANA business award, so she may be able to use a PVG lounge. My wife is coming back from PEK on an ANA business award, and I was able to pull up the lounge map for that airport (and for NRT) by substituting PEK (then NRT) for PVG in the linked address.

Though I do not have an RCC or any of the other lounge membership, am I correct that as a UA 1K traveling international (IAD-PVG and PVG-IAD) on a UA Y ticket I should have access to RCCs and the other *A lounges?

CHC Kiwi Jan 7, 2007 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 6968719)
Though I do not have an RCC or any of the other lounge membership, am I correct that as a UA 1K traveling international (IAD-PVG and PVG-IAD) on a UA Y ticket I should have access to RCCs and the other *A lounges?

Yes. As UA *G you'll have access to all *A Gold lounges and as you're flying on an international ticket you'll have access to RCCs at IAD and any other airports you fly in from on the same day.

itsme Jan 7, 2007 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by CHC Kiwi (Post 6969895)
Yes. As UA *G you'll have access to all *A Gold lounges and as you're flying on an international ticket you'll have access to RCCs as well.

I didn't realize that I had that opportunity when I was a UA 1P (still *G) and missed out on some opportunities I might have taken had I been aware of this benefit. (In some airports, there are separate lounges for those flying F
international with that carrier, and those flying F on another *A carrier, or C or Y on any carrier, won't get into those special first class lounges no matter that they are *G or members of any *A lounges, right?)

Kiwi Flyer Jan 7, 2007 2:55 pm

Either the map is out of date or the map on NZ's magazine is wrong, since the magazine shows another lounge (presumably contract) being used by NZ.

To get these maps etc, on the main www.staralliance.com page click on destinations (top right).

As *G flying *A airline same day you have access to any designated *G lounges. Normally contract lounges only have access to *G pax of the specific airlines since they are not *G lounges.

CHC Kiwi Jan 7, 2007 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 6969950)
I didn't realize that I had that opportunity when I was a UA 1P (still *G) and missed out on some opportunities I might have taken had I been aware of this benefit. (In some airports, there are separate lounges for those flying F
international with that carrier, and those flying F on another *A carrier, or C or Y on any carrier, won't get into those special first class lounges no matter that they are *G or members of any *A lounges, right?)

Kiwi Flyer is right. As a *G you have access (with one or two exceptions, such as SIN SKL) on the same day of flying to all specifically designated *G lounges (with *G logo outside). But UA/US *G cannot access domestic RCCs unless on same day international flight.

itsme Jan 7, 2007 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by CHC Kiwi (Post 6970095)
Kiwi Flyer is right. As a *G you have access on the same day of flying to all specifically designated *G lounges (with *G logo outside). Exception is, of course, that UA/US *G cannot access domestic RCCs unless on same day international flight.

And what I didn't know until I traveled for the first time on an F (award) ticket Down Under to OZ and your incredibly beautiful country, there are more exclusive lounges than the *G ones. (Kuru Clubs don't have more than one COS, though, do they? I now know that UA and SQ, and possibly others, do. And Kuru Clubs have free internet access^ , which UA doesn't provide even in their first class lounges:td:.)

CHC Kiwi Jan 7, 2007 3:28 pm


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 6970132)
And what I didn't know until I traveled for the first time on an F (award) ticket Down Under to OZ and your incredibly beautiful country, there are more exclusive lounges than the *G ones. (Kuru Clubs don't have more than one COS, though, do they? I now know that UA and SQ, and possibly others, do. And Kuru Clubs have free internet access^ , which UA doesn't provide even in their first class lounges:td:.)

Glad you enjoyed your visit. :) NZ used to operate F lounges, but does so no longer due to the discontinuation of NZ F. I think one or two F lounges might still be operating (SYD?), but only for F pax of other carriers.

Just as a point of clarification, domestic NZ lounges are Koru Clubs and NZ international lounges are, well, International Lounges. :)

Mods: apologies for going OT. :)

itsme Jan 7, 2007 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by CHC Kiwi (Post 6970188)
Glad you enjoyed your visit. :) NZ used to operate F lounges, but does so no longer due to the discontinuation of NZ F. I think one or two F lounges might still be operating (SYD?), but only for F pax of other carriers.

Just as a point of clarification, domestic NZ lounges are Koru Clubs and NZ international lounges are, well, International Lounges. :)

Mods: apologies for going OT. :)

Right, Koru not Kuru Clubs! (Koru, as I learned just last month, is that NZ fern, while kuru, as I have long known, is a infectious neurologic disease affecting New Guinea cannibals.)

Didn't know that ANZ didn't fly F on any of its routes. An economic decision, I presume, not an "egalitarian" choice. (ANZ doesn't have "enhanced" economy, does it?) I did check out the Koru Club in SYD, and saw no signs of distinct accomodations for F passengers. (Maybe it is there behind a concealed door, so the less privileged will not be jealous.)

And BTW, did I say how much I appreciated the free internet in Koru clubs^^^, something that UA doesn't provide in its lounges:td::td::td:?

Kiwi Flyer Jan 7, 2007 4:03 pm

NZ removed F a couple of years ago. The longhaul (and some trans-tasman flights) has economy, premium economy and premium business.

SYD F lounge was hidden, entrance to the right. Not sure if it still exists (for TG F pax) or whether, like AKL F, has been removed for other uses.

CHC Kiwi Jan 7, 2007 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 6970274)
Right, Koru not Kuru Clubs! (Koru, as I learned just last month, is that NZ fern, while kuru, as I have long known, is a infectious neurologic disease affecting New Guinea cannibals.)

Didn't know that ANZ didn't fly F on any of its routes. An economic decision, I presume, not an "egalitarian" choice. (ANZ doesn't have "enhanced" economy, does it?) I did check out the Koru Club in SYD, and saw no signs of distinct accomodations for F passengers. (Maybe it is there behind a concealed door, so the less privileged will not be jealous.)

And BTW, did I say how much I appreciated the free internet in Koru clubs^^^, something that UA doesn't provide in its lounges:td::td::td:?

NZ still operates three classes - economy, premium economy, and business premiere. Extensive info. on these in the NZ forum.

Xiaotung Jan 7, 2007 4:33 pm

Just came back from Shanghai on NZ. Now I can give you guys the correct information. There is no Star Gold lounge at PVG at the moment. I know Star website shows SQ and NH lounges as Star Gold but you will be denied entry with Star Gold card and NZ boarding pass at both lounges. No Star Gold logo there either. NZ uses the contract lounge owned by the airport. Entry is by invitation card given at check-in.

CHC Kiwi Jan 7, 2007 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by Xiaotung (Post 6970494)
Just came back from Shanghai on NZ. Now I can give you guys the correct information. There is no Star Gold lounge at PVG at the moment. I know Star website shows SQ and NH lounges as Star Gold but you will be denied entry with Star Gold card and NZ boarding pass at both lounges. No Star Gold logo there either. NZ uses the contract lounge owned by the airport. Entry is by invitation card given at check-in.

When did that happen? How does the contract lounge compare? I wonder what a (say) UA *G has access to?

itsme Jan 7, 2007 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by Xiaotung (Post 6970494)
Just came back from Shanghai on NZ. Now I can give you guys the correct information. There is no Star Gold lounge at PVG at the moment. I know Star website shows SQ and NH lounges as Star Gold but you will be denied entry with Star Gold card and NZ boarding pass at both lounges. No Star Gold logo there either. NZ uses the contract lounge owned by the airport. Entry is by invitation card given at check-in.

Not sure I understand. SQ and NH have lounges but they are not open to *Gs flying international on other *A carriers? Those lounges are not mentioned as exceptions on the *A website, though these other ones are:

We regret that due to space restrictions, Star Alliance Gold members may not access the Senator Lounges in Stuttgart and Paris (CDG) or the Scandinavian Lounge in Bangkok. In Paris (CDG) Star Alliance Gold memebrs may use the LH Frequent Traveller lounge facilities.
In Singapore we offer access to the Singapore Airlines Premium Lounge instead of the Silver Kris Lounge (Raffles Class) and in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro only the VARIG Business Class Lounges give access, as the VARIG First Class Lounges have space limitations.
Customers under 18 years of age can only use the bmi business lounges instead of the bmi diamond club lounges.
United Airlines' Premier Executive and Premier Executive 1K customer and US Airways' Chairman Preferred and Gold Preferred customers have access to U.S. domestic United Red Carpet Club and US Airways Club locations only when they present a ticket or boarding pass for a same-day international flight
.

There would be the same lounge access, or lack thereof, for those flying on other *A carriers as there was for you flying on NZ? At what "check-in" point are those written "invitations" given out, and to whom exactly are they given out? Does one ask for such an "invitation" before they fly to PVG or when they are flying out of PVG? Are things different at PEK (and NRT)? Do you know what to expect before you got to PVG, and if so how, or did you only find out when you try to go in?

Xiaotung Jan 7, 2007 5:24 pm


Originally Posted by CHC Kiwi (Post 6970534)
When did that happen? How does the contract lounge compare? I wonder what a (say) UA *G has access to?

Flight was only yesterday. NZ uses both Shanghai Airport business and first class lounges located at Gate 17/18. Which one to use is at the airport's discretion as both lounges accommendate a lot other airline passengers. The lounge reception only collects invitations. No need to present Gold card or boarding pass. I guess same invitation will be given to other *G cardholders at NZ check in counters.

Xiaotung Jan 7, 2007 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by itsme (Post 6970610)
There would be the same lounge access, or lack thereof, for those flying on other *A carriers as there was for you flying on NZ? At what "check-in" point are those written "invitations" given out, and to whom exactly are they given out? Does one ask for such an "invitation" before they fly to PVG or when they are flying out of PVG? Are things different at PEK (and NRT)? Do you know what to expect before you got to PVG, and if so how, or did you only find out when you try to go in?

Like I said SQ and NH lounges at PVG are not Star Gold lounges. They are only open to passengers boarding SQ or NH flights. And for those non SQ or non NH Star Gold cardholders boarding SQ or NH flights you will have to collect an invitation at SQ or NH check in counters respectively. Same to NZ only they use the airport lounges.

itsme Jan 7, 2007 6:42 pm

It seems that Xiatong's answers may only apply to lounge access at PVG for those flying SQ or NZ. Anyone know the story at PVG for those flying other *A carriers, in particular UA and ANA? Is lounge access at PVG another "exception," though not one stated on the *A website? (I wouldn't have thought to ask but for this thread.)


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