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Old Dec 21, 06, 11:27 am
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Varig to leave Star Alliance

http://www.staralliance.com/en/press...ralliance.html

In a nutshell:
With "new" Varig having been granted its operator's certificate (CHETA), "old" Varig no longer meets the conditions to be a member of Star Alliance.
The press release does not indicate whether "new" Varig is expected to join but it states that *A wants to increase presence in South America:
“Star Alliance continues to offer the most intercontinental flights serving more cities in Brazil than any other alliance and will continue to expand its services in this important and growing aviation market”
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Old Dec 21, 06, 12:47 pm
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Hardly surprising I guess, but still a shame nonetheless.
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Old Dec 21, 06, 12:56 pm
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...not much of Varig left anyway ...
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Old Dec 21, 06, 1:11 pm
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that´s a pity, just when the new Varig is taking off and getting reliable services again. I guess there´s plenty of debts from the old Varig to prevent the new one to be part of *A. That leaves us here in Brazil without an airline that´s part of an alliance... Oh well, I guess it happens...Anyone think there´s any chance of either TAM or the new Varig join any of the existing alliances?

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Old Dec 21, 06, 5:16 pm
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Press reports in Brazil indicate that new VARIG is in talks to join Star Alliance as soon as possible, although nothing is certain yet. We'll have to wait and see.
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Old Dec 21, 06, 6:58 pm
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I feel for the FF folks in Brazil.

However, I shed no tears for that old RG. Had my share of totally inacceptable stories with them along with pretty snoddy eomployee behaviour along the way.

It can only go up from here.
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Old Dec 21, 06, 9:27 pm
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What happened when the new Ansett Australia came about? Didn't the *A stick with the new Ansett?
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Old Dec 21, 06, 11:55 pm
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Originally Posted by samsonyuen
What happened when the new Ansett Australia came about? Didn't the *A stick with the new Ansett?
What new Ansett Australia?
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Old Dec 22, 06, 12:39 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingRabbit View Post
Anyone think there´s any chance of either TAM or the new Varig join any of the existing alliances?

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TAM said only a few days ago that they had no intention of joining any alliances any time soon , of course that may have just been posturing
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Old Dec 22, 06, 8:41 am
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What kind of network does the new Varig have? Will its route network expand to the level of the old Varig, especially in South America? Losing Varig is no big deal for getting to and from South America but its a big problem for Star members who want to use rewards to fly within South America.
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Old Dec 22, 06, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by globetrekker84 View Post
What new Ansett Australia?
After the original Ansett owned by NZ collapsed some Aussies bought the remains and tried to resurect it for like 6 mths untill it collapsed again, hence the new "Ansett".
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Old Dec 22, 06, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by jimmac View Post
What kind of network does the new Varig have? Will its route network expand to the level of the old Varig, especially in South America? Losing Varig is no big deal for getting to and from South America but its a big problem for Star members who want to use rewards to fly within South America.
Right now it is nowhere near what it was a year ago. With the new permit though, it is expected to slowly expand again, hopefully growing back to be close to what it used to be. How slowly it will grow, and even IF it effectively will, remains to be seen. Right now Varig flies to Argentina and Venezuela, plus a bunch of cities on south and northeast Brazil. A few more are being added this January.

On another note, newspaper today reports that Varig will consider reapplying to Star or joining One World. Personally, I have a tough time buying the idea of Varig joining OW. Since nobody was quoted saying that, I think it´s just newspaper rubbish.

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Old Dec 22, 06, 11:56 am
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Wonder if this is precursor of things to come at least in Europe. I don't want to believe this but i keep hearing that members are competing against each other.
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Old Dec 22, 06, 1:18 pm
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After the original Ansett owned by NZ collapsed some Aussies bought the remains and tried to resurect it for like 6 mths untill it collapsed again, hence the new "Ansett".
If you're thinking of Tesna, that went nowhere. No flights. No alliance.
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Old Dec 23, 06, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer View Post
If you're thinking of Tesna, that went nowhere. No flights. No alliance.

AFAIR * said Tesna will a member again.
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