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paul577 Nov 18, 2005 6:31 am

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djjaguar64 Nov 18, 2005 8:02 am

ABSOLUTELY FLY SIA, A GREAT WAY TO FLY

Rest is deleted so as not to offend anyone. ;)

MovieMan Nov 18, 2005 8:19 am


Originally Posted by paul577
I am troubled by the propspect of flying SIA in the context of the imminent execution a young Australian in Singapore. SIA is owned by the Singapore govt through Temasek Holdings. As a Christian, I am implacably opposed to the death penalty and in this particular case there appear to be many extenuating circumstances warranting clemency. The case may be well known to those of you in Asia or Australia. I would urge others with a concern or interest to look at the details in the Australian press.
I have been thinking about this for the past few days and have concluded that I will NOT fly with SIA again for I will not do anything to support the Singapore Government because of the way it has handled this and other similar cases. Others with similar views might like to consider doing the same.
cheers

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paul577 Nov 18, 2005 8:28 am


Originally Posted by djjaguar64
ABSOLUTELY FLY SIA, A GREAT WAY TO FLY

p.s. Keep your personal and religious beliefs to yourself. It is good to hear that you have other choices, like QANTAS, whose government took part in the massacre of innocent Iraqi's in Iraq. There you have it. Ciao!!!!!!!!!

Is there just a slight element of hyprocrisy in your reply? That aside, QANTAS has not been owned by the australian government for about 15 years.
cheers

peter42 Nov 18, 2005 8:30 am

If you fly C or F SIA is a good choice, if you fly Y IMHO stay away from them.

MovieMan Nov 18, 2005 8:39 am


Originally Posted by peter42
If you fly C or F SIA is a good choice, if you fly Y IMHO stay away from them.

At last, a post that's on-topic (if wrong). :D ;)

JPB Nov 18, 2005 5:45 pm

Although I to am against the death penalty I don't see that the Singapore government is acting in an improper way. The law is very clear and if you travel you have to accept the law of the land you travel to. Therefore I don't see any reason to single out Singapore. Of course if you want to boycott all countries which have the death penalty that is your choice. Here is a list of countries which maintain the death penalty and actively carry it out.

AFGHANISTAN, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KOREA (North), KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBYA, MALAWI, MALAYSIA, MONGOLIA, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE

lhrpete Nov 19, 2005 12:40 am

I smell a troll.

McCoy Nov 19, 2005 12:43 am


Originally Posted by lhrpete
I smell a troll.

..hmm.. I think you can get a cream for that.

inhiyu66 Nov 20, 2005 12:42 pm

To fly SQ or not is solely up to each individual.
Yet, one does not need to voice self righteous view to others.
The bottomline is there are many other horrible things in the world than death penalty. Sad to say this, though.
Government ownership has nothing to do with it.
If you will boycott SQ, 'cos it is owned by Singapore government.
You should also avoid QF, 'cos QF pays taxes to the government whose prime minister is eager to serve as Mr. B_ _ _'s secretary in Asia and whose government endorses unlawful invasion in Iraq and massacre on the Iraqi civilians.
If your moral standard is so high, you'd better stay home.
Whichever airline you may fly next time, the chances are your planes may be fueled by oil from countries practising death penalty.
To me you are blind to many things.

kaysquare Nov 20, 2005 6:43 pm

Wow, this topic is getting hot! inhiyu66 is right about it though.

Comparing brings no end, but just endless comparing.

Every country/state is different from all others. Just as much as no 2 people are the same. One man's meat may be another's poison. So, to the OP, just live and let live.

Cheers!

cstead Nov 20, 2005 9:27 pm

Objectively:
I will always fly SQ in business or first, but only in Y as a last resort or intra-Asia or if booked into a non-discounted class. Getting no EQMs for sitting in the back seems like a bad deal to me:(

peter42 Nov 21, 2005 1:49 am


Originally Posted by MovieMan
At last, a post that's on-topic (if wrong). :D ;)

Sorry, IMHO an airline shows quality in case of problems, and if you are booked in ECo you can exspect nothing from SQ!

MovieMan Nov 21, 2005 3:53 am


Originally Posted by peter42
Sorry, IMHO an airline shows quality in case of problems, and if you are booked in ECo you can exspect nothing from SQ!

This is probably not the thread for it, but I'd like to hear about your poor experiences with SQ, because my experience has been almost always favorable, in all classes. If you've reported on them before, maybe you can post a link?

peter42 Nov 21, 2005 5:02 am


Originally Posted by MovieMan
This is probably not the thread for it, but I'd like to hear about your poor experiences with SQ, because my experience has been almost always favorable, in all classes. If you've reported on them before, maybe you can post a link?


YOu may search in the archives yes.


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