Best and worst of *A
#16




Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Stuttgart, Germany
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Originally Posted by stut
Food / drink
Best: OS (specifically NG). Although SQ had wonderful food, the Do&Co catering on OS is second to none. It's the closest to restaurant quality I've had on a plane.
Worst: ... And a slap to OS for using a 737 on VIE-DXB (and still selling C as a long-haul fare...)
Best: OS (specifically NG). Although SQ had wonderful food, the Do&Co catering on OS is second to none. It's the closest to restaurant quality I've had on a plane.
Worst: ... And a slap to OS for using a 737 on VIE-DXB (and still selling C as a long-haul fare...)
Originally Posted by flamboyant 1
Worst:
Lounges: CAI for LH flight
Lounges: CAI for LH flight
#17




Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SYD
Programs: Mid-tiers with no tears: OZ*G, AC*G, NZ*S, VA Silver, QF Gold, HH Gold, Bonvoy Gold
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Lounges
Best overall: NZ for generally high quality lounges complete with decent food & wine (important for a constantly hungry alcoholic like myself), with honorable mention to SQ for usually having a decent range of food (and good ice cream)
Best individual lounges: OZ and SQ in ICN, NZ in SYD, NZ in WLG (my fave domestic lounge)
Worst overall: UA (even the US lounges I've seen are better)
Loyalty program: Horses for courses really. I like AC for easy status earning and fairly well priced awards, UA is strong overall, NZ is good for its innovative redemption policy of any seat, any flight but premium awards are pricey.
Y / J / F cabins incl. seating
Best Y seats: NZs 744s by a mile. UA Y+ also gets honorable mention (though the seats themselves are pretty basic and not very comfortable), plus AC's A340 seats and OZ's 777s are not bad either.
Worst Y seats: UA Y-, SQ 744
Best J seats: I've never really been wowed by any long haul J seats, and I've not tried the spacebed yet. UA probably wins overall, AC for space, SK for funky cabin design (incl bathrooms!). NZ's new J suites look fabulous, though.
Worst J seats: TG's old ones, any intra-Europe J.
Best/worst F seats: I've only ever tried TG, woe is me. Old but very comfy.
Food / drink
Best: NZ, not least for the decent wines. SQ I find a bit disappointing. OZ probably win for quantity, in Y at least. SK business class food/wine was impressive, Y was pretty basic. TG endeared themselves to me by offering Dom Perignon in F, but breakfast service wasn't the best. AC's vodka based cocktails in Exec First are also worthy of a mention.
Worst: In Y, UA are usually OK but sometimes truly terrible, ditto AC, but for J catering UA is a disgrace whereas AC is quite good. Wines on both are woeful. Meanwhile on US I've never been served any food at all! LH win prize for most boring shorthaul food - mit ham or kase, sir?
Customer service
Best: a tie between NZ and OZ - both very good despite very different styles. NH is very very close behind.
Most overrated: SQ - they seem to lack warmth, individuality or initiative, though they are certainly efficient.
Worst: UA on a bad day
Baggage handling
Best: SQ
Worst: US
Routes on own metal
Best: LH, SQ, honorable mention to UA
Worst: BD, for constant and illogical changes
In-flight entertainment / communications
Best: An easy win for SQ, though NH's AVOD equipped system is good too. I'm curious to see NZ's new AVOD system coming out in a few months.
Worst: TG
I'm adding some awards of my own...
the inflight magazine
Best: SK - genuinely worth reading, though occasional slight lapses into 'English as a second language'
Worst: OZ - yaaaaaaaawn
Frequent flyer card design
Best: NZ - very funky. Honorable mention to BD.
Worst: AC's elite design 2003, UA's for being boring
Uniforms
Best: SQ - I must admit, they are gorgeous.
Worst: SK shorthaul - the poor women have to wear grey sacks!
Aircraft livery
Best: BD by miles. I quite like US as well, and am fond of NZ's (probably only because of moments seeing it in foreign airports and being reminded of home). SK and LH are both very plain but quite smart, especially on their larger a/c.
Middle of the road: TG, SQ, UA (old & new)
Worst: OZ is pretty bad, OS is probably the dullest, new AC livery is the tackiest (I quite like the old one, though, especially on an A340).
Best overall: NZ for generally high quality lounges complete with decent food & wine (important for a constantly hungry alcoholic like myself), with honorable mention to SQ for usually having a decent range of food (and good ice cream)
Best individual lounges: OZ and SQ in ICN, NZ in SYD, NZ in WLG (my fave domestic lounge)
Worst overall: UA (even the US lounges I've seen are better)
Loyalty program: Horses for courses really. I like AC for easy status earning and fairly well priced awards, UA is strong overall, NZ is good for its innovative redemption policy of any seat, any flight but premium awards are pricey.
Y / J / F cabins incl. seating
Best Y seats: NZs 744s by a mile. UA Y+ also gets honorable mention (though the seats themselves are pretty basic and not very comfortable), plus AC's A340 seats and OZ's 777s are not bad either.
Worst Y seats: UA Y-, SQ 744
Best J seats: I've never really been wowed by any long haul J seats, and I've not tried the spacebed yet. UA probably wins overall, AC for space, SK for funky cabin design (incl bathrooms!). NZ's new J suites look fabulous, though.
Worst J seats: TG's old ones, any intra-Europe J.
Best/worst F seats: I've only ever tried TG, woe is me. Old but very comfy.
Food / drink
Best: NZ, not least for the decent wines. SQ I find a bit disappointing. OZ probably win for quantity, in Y at least. SK business class food/wine was impressive, Y was pretty basic. TG endeared themselves to me by offering Dom Perignon in F, but breakfast service wasn't the best. AC's vodka based cocktails in Exec First are also worthy of a mention.
Worst: In Y, UA are usually OK but sometimes truly terrible, ditto AC, but for J catering UA is a disgrace whereas AC is quite good. Wines on both are woeful. Meanwhile on US I've never been served any food at all! LH win prize for most boring shorthaul food - mit ham or kase, sir?
Customer service
Best: a tie between NZ and OZ - both very good despite very different styles. NH is very very close behind.
Most overrated: SQ - they seem to lack warmth, individuality or initiative, though they are certainly efficient.
Worst: UA on a bad day
Baggage handling
Best: SQ
Worst: US
Routes on own metal
Best: LH, SQ, honorable mention to UA
Worst: BD, for constant and illogical changes
In-flight entertainment / communications
Best: An easy win for SQ, though NH's AVOD equipped system is good too. I'm curious to see NZ's new AVOD system coming out in a few months.
Worst: TG
I'm adding some awards of my own...
the inflight magazine
Best: SK - genuinely worth reading, though occasional slight lapses into 'English as a second language'
Worst: OZ - yaaaaaaaawn
Frequent flyer card design
Best: NZ - very funky. Honorable mention to BD.
Worst: AC's elite design 2003, UA's for being boring
Uniforms
Best: SQ - I must admit, they are gorgeous.
Worst: SK shorthaul - the poor women have to wear grey sacks!
Aircraft livery
Best: BD by miles. I quite like US as well, and am fond of NZ's (probably only because of moments seeing it in foreign airports and being reminded of home). SK and LH are both very plain but quite smart, especially on their larger a/c.
Middle of the road: TG, SQ, UA (old & new)
Worst: OZ is pretty bad, OS is probably the dullest, new AC livery is the tackiest (I quite like the old one, though, especially on an A340).
Last edited by mad_atta; Mar 18, 2005 at 9:51 pm
#18



Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tampere
Posts: 3,346
Originally Posted by mad_atta
...Uniforms
Best: SQ - I must admit, they are gorgeous.
Best: SQ - I must admit, they are gorgeous.
cheers,
Henry
#19
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 2,341
Originally Posted by mad_atta
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I'm adding some awards of my own...
I'm adding some awards of my own...
^ . Well done, mad_atta. My additions to your nominations:
Originally Posted by mad_atta
[B]
Frequent flyer card design
Best: NZ - very funky. Honorable mention to BD.
Worst: AC's elite design 2003, UA's for being boring
Frequent flyer card design
Best: NZ - very funky. Honorable mention to BD.
Worst: AC's elite design 2003, UA's for being boring
Originally Posted by mad_atta
[B]
Uniforms
Best: SQ - I must admit, they are gorgeous.
Worst: SK shorthaul - the poor women have to wear grey sacks!
Uniforms
Best: SQ - I must admit, they are gorgeous.
Worst: SK shorthaul - the poor women have to wear grey sacks!
Originally Posted by mad_atta
[B]
Aircraft livery
Best: BD by miles. I quite like US as well, and am fond of NZ's (probably only because of moments seeing it in foreign airports and being reminded of home). SK and LH are both very plain but quite smart, especially on their larger a/c.
Middle of the road: TG, SQ, UA (old & new)
Worst: OZ is pretty bad, OS is probably the dullest, new AC livery is the tackiest (I quite like the old one, though, especially on an A340).
Aircraft livery
Best: BD by miles. I quite like US as well, and am fond of NZ's (probably only because of moments seeing it in foreign airports and being reminded of home). SK and LH are both very plain but quite smart, especially on their larger a/c.
Middle of the road: TG, SQ, UA (old & new)
Worst: OZ is pretty bad, OS is probably the dullest, new AC livery is the tackiest (I quite like the old one, though, especially on an A340).
One more category: best catalogue. My vote goes to LH (although SQ is a very close second, as shown by healthy additions to my KF account after my trips to Asia).
Last edited by jjpb3; Mar 19, 2005 at 1:43 am
#20




Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by mad_atta
TG endeared themselves to me by offering Dom Perignon in F, but breakfast service wasn't the best.
#21




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Originally Posted by henry999
Another thing--I have always liked their idea of colour-coding the rank structure; you can see at a glance who is who, without having to look closely at the name tag.
#22




Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: SYD
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Originally Posted by Fliar
Let me get this straight: you're complaining that you didn't get Champagne for breakfast? 

jjpb3, you're right about the male SQ uniforms, they are pretty foul. IIRC the TG ones aren't much better...?
#23

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: CH / D
Programs: Amex, Avis, BA, BD, CX, FS, Hertz, HH, IC, LH, NH, RC, RCCL, Sixt, SPG, SQ, UA
Posts: 7,050
Worst: TAP Portugal Victoria FFP redemption
LH FRA-CPT-FRA in F for 300000 miles. No kidding, play around with their spend calculator.
http://www.tapvictoria.com/FFP/CDA/t...1_0_1_,00.html
Best FAs: Austrian and Lauda Air have/had some very good looking young ladies, sometimes even in jeans that were probably rather uncomfortably tight
LH FRA-CPT-FRA in F for 300000 miles. No kidding, play around with their spend calculator.
http://www.tapvictoria.com/FFP/CDA/t...1_0_1_,00.html
Best FAs: Austrian and Lauda Air have/had some very good looking young ladies, sometimes even in jeans that were probably rather uncomfortably tight
#24
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 2,341
Originally Posted by mad_atta
jjpb3, you're right about the male SQ uniforms, they are pretty foul. IIRC the TG ones aren't much better...?
I hope the same management who chose the plane livery don't try to re-design the cabin crew's outfits!

