Originally Posted by stratidawn (Post 32662086)

Hello Flyers.. I've got a tricky question here...

I booked two separate tickets: United Airline: SFO -> NRT (First Class Ticket); and within 40min of landing NRT, I will be boarding Shenzhen Airline's NRT --> SZX (Premium Economy)

Condition to be considered:
1. United Airline and Shenzhen Airline are both Star Alliance, I know that I will be able to checked all my luggage through final destination (SZX)
2. These two tickets are purchased separately, ie they are NOT under one itinerary/reservation code.

Here comes the tricky part:
1. SFO --> NRT is first class (longer flight, so UA is considered significant carrier throughout the trip), but NRT-->SZX is premium economy, when I check my bags at SFO, will I be able to check two 70lbs (32kg) luggages all the way through Shenzhen? The question here is that, would the NRT-SZX part of my trip limit my luggage allowance?
2. How does it work if I want to pre-purchase additional checked bags? UA charges $200/piece up to 70lbs per piece. If I do this, would this suffice for the 3rd checked bag to get to the final destination?

I read something about the IATA and the US DOT rules... But wanted to come here and ask you all expert Flyers here.

THANK YOU SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!

Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 32663304)

OP wrote they are boarding new flight 40 minutes of landing not new flight departing 40 minutes.

In any case I wouldn’t attempt this.

Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 32663304)

OP wrote they are boarding new flight 40 minutes of landing not new flight departing 40 minutes.

In any case I wouldn’t attempt this.

Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 32663480)

Not sure I understand your concern.

I take 40 minutes of "landing" to mean 40 minutes of gate arrival, but if I am wrong and it is really "landing" then it is even less likely that OP will make his onwards flight.

Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 32662168)

Wow, where to begin...

Since you have two completely different tickets, you neither have a connection nor any privileges across the bookings. UA may check your baggage through but may not, in which case you’d need to collect your luggage, and check in again for your next flight. Regardless of this, UA considers your trip to end in Japan, so you need to be able to enter Japan under the current circumstances. Have you checked that you are eligible to enter the country? I agree you will most likely be denied boarding in SFO unless you meet the requirements.

Aside from all of that, a 40 minute connection would have been pretty much impossible even in normal times, but now is completely out of the question. Even if you are allowed to board the UA flight, you’d likely forfeit the SZX flight. UA no longer has international first class, I believe you mean Polaris, which is a business class product.

Summary: depending on what passports you hold, you may wish to reconsider this whole trip, and at a minimum book it on one ticket or give yourself several hours in between.

Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 32662802)

1. This is not a connection, but a transfer between two separate tickets.
2. Most significant carrier has not been used by any US carrier since 2011, so forget about it anyway.
3. No, UA will not check your bags through. The MCT for I-I at NRT is 1.00 and you are 20 minutes below that. While UA will check across separate *A tickets, it will only do so when MCT is met.
4. Thus, you will need to claim your bags at NRT, check them in with SH and so on. This entails being admissible to Japan. You will also have missed the bag check, check-in and gate deadlines for your onwards ticket.

In any event, UA would not even sell this as a connection, so it is an almost certainty that you can't make this work. Typically, I would allow at least 3x the MCT for separate tickets because you bear the risk of a delay on the inbound.

Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 32663304)

OP wrote they are boarding new flight 40 minutes of landing not new flight departing 40 minutes.

In any case I wouldn’t attempt this.

Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 32663480)

Not sure I understand your concern.

I take 40 minutes of "landing" to mean 40 minutes of gate arrival, but if I am wrong and it is really "landing" then it is even less likely that OP will make his onwards flight.

Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 32664194)

It could mean whether the two flights can be sold as a connection.

If SZ flight typically (no idea if it does) boards 30 min prior to departure and “flight begins boarding 40 min after OP landing,” then the connection time is 70 min. If NRT MCT is 60 min as you indicated then OP should reconsider buying these flights as a connection.

Originally Posted by paperwastage (Post 32664251)

also, United does not have first class anymore.

i'm only aware of UA/JL/NH doing nonstop SFO-NRT, so OP could theoretically redeem United miles for NH First


still wouldn't do this. 40-70 self-connecting ticket is too tight

Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 32663441)

Same thing?

Originally Posted by stratidawn (Post 32664556)

Sorry guys... SFO-NRT lands 14:05 at NRT, and the NRT-SZX flight leaves 15:40...Sorry that caused such a debate... This is completely do-able since there's an hour and a half.

Originally Posted by stratidawn (Post 32664568)

Sorry guys... SFO-NRT lands 14:05 at NRT, and the NRT-SZX flight leaves 15:40...Sorry that caused such a debate... This is completely do-able since there's an hour and a half