*A will lose three members in the next 12 months -- SA, TG & AI
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There will be plenty of long-haul carriers serving the region -- they just won't be SE Asia based. To effectively run a long-haul airline, one needs to (a) be based in a large market AND (b) have the skills, systems, and fleet to run an efficient airline. SQ lacks (a), while TG lacks (b).
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I agree with the others on TG, the Thai Government will not allow Thai Airways to fail. Anyhow, they still remain as an instrument of pride for Thailand, which explains they're wide variation of planes (A330s, A350s, A380s, 772s, 77Es, 773s, 77Ws, 788s, 789s). Add the fact that they don't operate narrow body jets a la SQ...
It's a political popularity contest.
It's a political popularity contest.
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Looks like Lufthansa won't make this list. Seems like an agreement has been reached where Lufthansa will get $11B in aid. The government will become a 20% owner in LH and they'll have to give up 48 takeoff and landing slots across FRA (24 slots) and MUC (24 slots) to a new competitor. I wonder who will get the slots and if it'll lower the absurdly high legalized collusion fares UA/LH charge into and out of Germany.
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No chance for those slots to go to any longhaul operator... this will go to regional operators like Ryanair.
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Looks like Lufthansa won't make this list. Seems like an agreement has been reached where Lufthansa will get $11B in aid. The government will become a 20% owner in LH and they'll have to give up 48 takeoff and landing slots across FRA (24 slots) and MUC (24 slots) to a new competitor. I wonder who will get the slots and if it'll lower the absurdly high legalized collusion fares UA/LH charge into and out of Germany.
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Ryanair would be initially excluded as they already operate at FRA but they'd be back in the game if no one else takes them all up.
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Ryanair got around such restrictions after the AB bk by just encouraging a local operator to take the slots and then align with Ryanair later. Laudamotion started in Vienna and Munich with ex AB aircraft and was assigned all the slots it wanted.
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Mate, if you cared to see what I was replying to, you will understand the context of my reply. I referred to PR, Philippine Airlines, of which I am fully aware of is not part of Star Alliance.
Since I was replying to a post about SEA carriers flying long haul, along with SQ, and TG, I was pointing out that PR is also one of the last remaining major long-haul carriers in South East Asia.
Since I was replying to a post about SEA carriers flying long haul, along with SQ, and TG, I was pointing out that PR is also one of the last remaining major long-haul carriers in South East Asia.
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I mean then couldn't Lufthansa take the slots back by having their new subsidiary "Ocean" apply for them?