NH vs LH Premium Economy Comparison
Jun 7, 2018, 10:43 am
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NH vs LH Premium Economy Comparison
Hello NH Forum - Could anyone who's experienced Premium Economy on both Lufthansa and ANA share their thoughts in terms of seats, meals, service, etc.?
I'm considering SFO-FRA/MUC-SIN on LH (A388/A359) vs. SFO-NRT-SIN on NH (B77W/B789). The LH routing is 10+ hours longer each way, but also earns more miles (especially because both would book into G, which credits at 125% on LH and 100% on NH for Aeroplan).
Many thanks in advance!
I'm considering SFO-FRA/MUC-SIN on LH (A388/A359) vs. SFO-NRT-SIN on NH (B77W/B789). The LH routing is 10+ hours longer each way, but also earns more miles (especially because both would book into G, which credits at 125% on LH and 100% on NH for Aeroplan).
Many thanks in advance!
Jun 7, 2018, 2:34 pm
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Hello NH Forum - Could anyone who's experienced Premium Economy on both Lufthansa and ANA share their thoughts in terms of seats, meals, service, etc.?
I'm considering SFO-FRA/MUC-SIN on LH (A388/A359) vs. SFO-NRT-SIN on NH (B77W/B789). The LH routing is 10+ hours longer each way, but also earns more miles (especially because both would book into G, which credits at 125% on LH and 100% on NH for Aeroplan).
Many thanks in advance!
I'm considering SFO-FRA/MUC-SIN on LH (A388/A359) vs. SFO-NRT-SIN on NH (B77W/B789). The LH routing is 10+ hours longer each way, but also earns more miles (especially because both would book into G, which credits at 125% on LH and 100% on NH for Aeroplan).
Many thanks in advance!
The NH PY seat is wide and comfortable with plenty of recline — you'll want to be in a bulkhead row though since if you're in the second or third rows and the person in front of you reclines you can't get out from the window/middle seat without disturbing your seatmate. Meals are exactly the same as what you get in Y (which are perfectly edible) except that you also get the C dessert but only after meal service in C is completed , and some additional snack options. Service is similar to Y as well — i.e. with NH still excellent. So really you're just paying for a larger seat. And note that the PY cabins on NH are much smaller (28 on the 77W and 21 on the 789) and hence more private (and a higher chance for an op-up?) than on the LH A380 with 52 seats.
Also if you have plenty of miles to burn note that both LH and NH G fares are eligible for *A upgrade awards, and for NH all you need is I space to upgrade, which regularly appears 2-3 weeks before departure, and looking at Aeroplan 20k miles for SFO-NRT seems like great value (to me at least).
Jun 7, 2018, 5:18 pm
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Have flown plenty of PY on NH (somehow I keep getting upgraded from Y) although not on LH — but would recommend booking NH anyway based on the schedules alone: SFO-FRA/MUC-SIN is just painful since SFO-FRA/MUC arrives in the morning and MUC/FRA-SIN depart late at night so you'll have about 10 hours to kill in FRA/MUC.
The NH PY seat is wide and comfortable with plenty of recline — you'll want to be in a bulkhead row though since if you're in the second or third rows and the person in front of you reclines you can't get out from the window/middle seat without disturbing your seatmate. Meals are exactly the same as what you get in Y (which are perfectly edible) except that you also get the C dessert but only after meal service in C is completed , and some additional snack options. Service is similar to Y as well — i.e. with NH still excellent. So really you're just paying for a larger seat. And note that the PY cabins on NH are much smaller (28 on the 77W and 21 on the 789) and hence more private (and a higher chance for an op-up?) than on the LH A380 with 52 seats.
Also if you have plenty of miles to burn note that both LH and NH G fares are eligible for *A upgrade awards, and for NH all you need is I space to upgrade, which regularly appears 2-3 weeks before departure, and looking at Aeroplan 20k miles for SFO-NRT seems like great value (to me at least).
The NH PY seat is wide and comfortable with plenty of recline — you'll want to be in a bulkhead row though since if you're in the second or third rows and the person in front of you reclines you can't get out from the window/middle seat without disturbing your seatmate. Meals are exactly the same as what you get in Y (which are perfectly edible) except that you also get the C dessert but only after meal service in C is completed , and some additional snack options. Service is similar to Y as well — i.e. with NH still excellent. So really you're just paying for a larger seat. And note that the PY cabins on NH are much smaller (28 on the 77W and 21 on the 789) and hence more private (and a higher chance for an op-up?) than on the LH A380 with 52 seats.
Also if you have plenty of miles to burn note that both LH and NH G fares are eligible for *A upgrade awards, and for NH all you need is I space to upgrade, which regularly appears 2-3 weeks before departure, and looking at Aeroplan 20k miles for SFO-NRT seems like great value (to me at least).
Jun 7, 2018, 6:04 pm
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For Lufthansa the service is basically also the Y service, the food is very close to Y but plated nicer. On porcelain and with metal cutlery. I never figured out of there are a few more drink option compared to Y.
For food and service, I would generally say that NH has the upper hand. Also, the LH cabins are not really separated from Y. Depends a bit on plane type though.
Both are solid choices, but for me the long connection with LH indicated above would be a deal killer. Unless we are talking 25% to 40% cheaper Then we can start discussing the layover if it is on my private dime.
For food and service, I would generally say that NH has the upper hand. Also, the LH cabins are not really separated from Y. Depends a bit on plane type though.
Both are solid choices, but for me the long connection with LH indicated above would be a deal killer. Unless we are talking 25% to 40% cheaper Then we can start discussing the layover if it is on my private dime.
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Jun 7, 2018, 6:10 pm
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For Lufthansa the service is basically also the Y service, the food is very close to T but plated nicer. On porcelain and with metal cutlery. I never figured out of there are a few more drink option compared to Y.
For food and service, I would generally say that NH has the upper hand. Also, the LH cabins are not really separated from Y. Depends a bit on plane type though.
Both are solid choices, but for me the long connection with LH indicated above would be a deal killer. Unless we are talking 25% to 40% cheaper Then we can start discussing the layover if it is on my private dime.
For food and service, I would generally say that NH has the upper hand. Also, the LH cabins are not really separated from Y. Depends a bit on plane type though.
Both are solid choices, but for me the long connection with LH indicated above would be a deal killer. Unless we are talking 25% to 40% cheaper Then we can start discussing the layover if it is on my private dime.
Price wise, both routings are in the same ballpark.
Jun 7, 2018, 6:13 pm
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Also if you have plenty of miles to burn note that both LH and NH G fares are eligible for *A upgrade awards, and for NH all you need is I space to upgrade, which regularly appears 2-3 weeks before departure, and looking at Aeroplan 20k miles for SFO-NRT seems like great value (to me at least).
Jun 7, 2018, 6:28 pm
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Yeah the Star Alliance upgrades. They do require I inventory to be available when you request. Which means award business class. So it is not just Aeroplan, but all *A programs that offer this. Usually though, it does prove devilishly difficult to succeed.
Jun 7, 2018, 6:47 pm
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I see, then I guess I will pass and not buy Aeroplan...
Jun 10, 2018, 7:14 am
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I'm a little surprised to learn that both LH and NH serve Y food in PY. My regular airline, AC, isn't known to have the best product, but actually serves slightly better meals in PY than in Y.
Jun 10, 2018, 3:51 pm
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In LH it is slightly better, but mainly really the plating being porcelain. But still clearly a Y meal. For NH you get the dessert from the J menu, and there are some additional snacks and drinks available. I can't remember now if NH has champagne in PY, but as JAL does i am fairly certain it is there on NH as well. But the tray served is the same as in Y for NH, which it is not on LH
Jun 10, 2018, 4:41 pm
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In LH it is slightly better, but mainly really the plating being porcelain. But still clearly a Y meal. For NH you get the dessert from the J menu, and there are some additional snacks and drinks available. I can't remember now if NH has champagne in PY, but as JAL does i am fairly certain it is there on NH as well. But the tray served is the same as in Y for NH, which it is not on LH
Jun 10, 2018, 9:58 pm
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In LH it is slightly better, but mainly really the plating being porcelain. But still clearly a Y meal. For NH you get the dessert from the J menu, and there are some additional snacks and drinks available. I can't remember now if NH has champagne in PY, but as JAL does i am fairly certain it is there on NH as well. But the tray served is the same as in Y for NH, which it is not on LH
Jun 10, 2018, 10:37 pm
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