Gulf Airlines to Join Star Alliance ?
#16
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EK and EY are bigger I believe, and they don't have to worry about anything political happening as it did to Oatar.
#17
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EY are not anything like the size of EK and have nothing like the reach. Their strategy of investing in airlines as a means of growth such as Air Berlin and Alitalia has not been a success so a re-think might be coming and I guess that could include a wish to join an establishe alliance.
LH have made positive noises to EY but maybe that was just to secure a good deal on Air Berlin as after all LH scuppered the QR move to join *A and they could do the same again. Living in the UK I would like to see EY in and they would provide a good choice to the LH group when traveling east - which of course is exactly what LH do not want.
I agree about the possibility of WY.
LH have made positive noises to EY but maybe that was just to secure a good deal on Air Berlin as after all LH scuppered the QR move to join *A and they could do the same again. Living in the UK I would like to see EY in and they would provide a good choice to the LH group when traveling east - which of course is exactly what LH do not want.
I agree about the possibility of WY.
#18
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EK is massive compared to EY and of the other GCC carriers, especially if you add in the flydubai bits that are integrating these days. It doesn't need nor want to join an alliance.
EY is collapsing nicely these days and isn't likely to be on anyone's list of an attractive partner to sign on with.
EY is collapsing nicely these days and isn't likely to be on anyone's list of an attractive partner to sign on with.
#20
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The EK alliance with QF is interesting and it has probably benefited both giving EK unfettered access to any Australian destination and QF a reasonable alternative to routing everyone to LHR for journeys to anywhere in Europe. That said, QF are dropping DXB as their transit stop on QF1/2 and reverting to SIN while from the introduction of the northern summer timetable they are introducing a non-stop LHR-PER with same plane onwards connection to MEL so maybe things with EK are loosening a little.
Back to SQ, they alongside LH do not like the Gulf carriers but if it was EY or WY they would hardly be a threat to the more developed networks of SQ and LH.
#21
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The EK alliance with QF is interesting and it has probably benefited both giving EK unfettered access to any Australian destination and QF a reasonable alternative to routing everyone to LHR for journeys to anywhere in Europe. That said, QF are dropping DXB as their transit stop on QF1/2 and reverting to SIN while from the introduction of the northern summer timetable they are introducing a non-stop LHR-PER with same plane onwards connection to MEL so maybe things with EK are loosening a little.
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For East Coasters, MEL-PER-LHR is actually inferior to connecting in SIN/DXB. The flight is actually longer as it's 5 hours east to west coast, followed by the PER-LHR leg which is a pretty monstrous 17 or so hours if I recall what was quoted. I'd personally rather break it in two and get a bit of time in a lounge or something in between.
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I prefer breaks under 2 hours... What's wrong with 787 in general?
#25
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There's room for a lot of overall improvement for GF , however with their new CEO ....a star alliance guy AND the announcement yesterday of their route expansion within and near the Gulf, I would say that they have a clear strategy now and I would imagine that would ideally include becoming a star alliance member. It surely would have come to their attention that *A has an absence in that region.
#26
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Watch for more clues.BAH new terminal is being built at lightning speed and new planes and routes being added, so they're intent on expansion..and *A are noticeably lacking in the Gulf.
#27
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I guess breaking with AA, a major move for small GF is part of the long process to being part of *A.
Watch for more clues.BAH new terminal is being built at lightning speed and new planes and routes being added, so they're intent on expansion..and *A are noticeably lacking in the Gulf.
Watch for more clues.BAH new terminal is being built at lightning speed and new planes and routes being added, so they're intent on expansion..and *A are noticeably lacking in the Gulf.
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#29
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It can take a few years to join an alliance, and GF are far from doing so, but that doesn't mean that GF doesn't aim to, nor does it mean that GF is not preparing to do so. They'll be soon I think some big tie ups between the major gulf carriers including possibly Saudia with the big US airlines in terms of codeshare and more feeder traffic from/into US domestic flights ,so right now it's jostling on both sides of pond.And when things settle, there'll be....IMO a gulf carrier in star alliance could be GF ..who knows ?
#30
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Suadia is a SkyTeam member already. And just because GF wants in doesn't mean it will realize such.
I'm not saying it will never be in an alliance but right now expecting an ascension into *A would be misguided IMO.
I'm not saying it will never be in an alliance but right now expecting an ascension into *A would be misguided IMO.