Star Alliance FFPs: Asiana Club vs EgyptAir Plus vs Turkish Airlines Miles&Smiles
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: Miles&More
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Star Alliance FFPs: Asiana Club vs EgyptAir Plus vs Turkish Airlines Miles&Smiles
Hi there,
I'm registered with Turkish Airlines and Lufthansa, because I am flying with both airlines occasionally (mainly Lufthansa 'till now, but I got TK flights scheduled for next year). I was just surfing around and realized that I'd have a chance of achieving a status if I used Asiana Club or EgyptAir Plus instead.
Asiana Club requires 40k miles or 50 Asiana segments for *A Gold status. The time period seems to be 24 months (WHAT?!).
With EgyptAir Plus, you need 30k miles for Silver status (apparently without a time limit) and another 30k within 24months after achieving Silver for Gold.
Now, I thought, TKs 40k miles in 12months were a good deal. Whatever.
Can any of you experts out there advise me on whether or not I should switch to one of those two programs, and which one is better?
I'm looking at earning rates on *A partners, ease of redemption for awards, surcharges and award ticket cost. Is there anything else there is to know about the programs?
Hope someone can help me, and maybe knowing about the programs helped someone here too...
Thanks!
I'm registered with Turkish Airlines and Lufthansa, because I am flying with both airlines occasionally (mainly Lufthansa 'till now, but I got TK flights scheduled for next year). I was just surfing around and realized that I'd have a chance of achieving a status if I used Asiana Club or EgyptAir Plus instead.
Asiana Club requires 40k miles or 50 Asiana segments for *A Gold status. The time period seems to be 24 months (WHAT?!).
With EgyptAir Plus, you need 30k miles for Silver status (apparently without a time limit) and another 30k within 24months after achieving Silver for Gold.
Now, I thought, TKs 40k miles in 12months were a good deal. Whatever.
Can any of you experts out there advise me on whether or not I should switch to one of those two programs, and which one is better?
I'm looking at earning rates on *A partners, ease of redemption for awards, surcharges and award ticket cost. Is there anything else there is to know about the programs?
Hope someone can help me, and maybe knowing about the programs helped someone here too...
Thanks!
#2
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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TK's program is really good, why complicate matters.. Asiana's burn rates are bad I read somewhere.
If you search you will prob find past threads on the same topic.
Best Star Alliance program for the the not-so-frequent-flyer
Need advice on which *A FF scheme to join? - please post here
If you search you will prob find past threads on the same topic.
Best Star Alliance program for the the not-so-frequent-flyer
Need advice on which *A FF scheme to join? - please post here
#3
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Singapore
Programs: A3 Gold, SQ Gold, AT Gold, Accor Silver, HHonors Diamond, I Prefer Elite, DISCOVERY Titanium
Posts: 472
my brother in law choose Asiana because of their Diamond plus program
Qualifications
Accumulation of 100,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 100 Asiana Airlines flights for within 24 months from the base date*
Accumulation of 500,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 500 Asiana Airlines flights from the date of subscription
Qualifications
Accumulation of 100,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 100 Asiana Airlines flights for within 24 months from the base date*
Accumulation of 500,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 500 Asiana Airlines flights from the date of subscription
#4
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,042
as always, check first whether your typical flight actually earns something in the other programs.
I've briefly considered going for other *A programs ISO M&M, but found too many of my flights wouldn't earn anything at all in the likes of A3 and TK
I've briefly considered going for other *A programs ISO M&M, but found too many of my flights wouldn't earn anything at all in the likes of A3 and TK
#5
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bangkok, Thailand. No longer Palm Coast, FL though still exiled, again, from the Bay Area.
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my brother in law choose Asiana because of their Diamond plus program
Qualifications
Accumulation of 100,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 100 Asiana Airlines flights for within 24 months from the base date*
Accumulation of 500,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 500 Asiana Airlines flights from the date of subscription
Qualifications
Accumulation of 100,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 100 Asiana Airlines flights for within 24 months from the base date*
Accumulation of 500,000 miles by boarding Asiana Airlines or Star Alliance flights, or boarding 500 Asiana Airlines flights from the date of subscription
OZ's award chart is similar to other *A carriers, though I haven't redeemed for anything yet. Carefully check the fare you are buying BEFORE you ticket, as OZ is somewhat restrictive, though again, similar to the other *A carriers.
Since I'm located in BKK, using iCN to fly to the US isn't so bad, especially since there are really no nonstop BKK-US options anyway and most of my flights either go the long way (QR via DOH, OS via VIE,) or are One World (CX and AA) via HKG.
Lifetime *G status after 500k also looks doable and valuable, if just for lounge access and priority checkin and boarding.
#6
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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Posts: 8
Thanks. I checked, it seemed to earn a few miles less, but the low qualification threshold more than compensates for that. So I think I'll just switch and hope that Asiana doesn't go bankrupt
#7
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: Miles&More
Posts: 8
How to reach *Gold in 2018
Hi there!
I have a lot more flights coming next year, so I was wondering how to reach Star Alliance gold status in 2018 as fast as possible. I stumbled upon Asiana Club and EgyptAir Plus, both seeming pretty attractive. So, what is your opinion on reaching *Gold in 2018? It would be great if you could name your favored program and provide a basic outline. Thanks!
I have a lot more flights coming next year, so I was wondering how to reach Star Alliance gold status in 2018 as fast as possible. I stumbled upon Asiana Club and EgyptAir Plus, both seeming pretty attractive. So, what is your opinion on reaching *Gold in 2018? It would be great if you could name your favored program and provide a basic outline. Thanks!
#8
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SYD
Programs: OZ Platinum LifeTime; DL PM; QF Gold; VA Gold; HH Diamond; IHG Diamond
Posts: 1,128
Why are you starting another thread on what is essentially the same topic?! Your previous thread has enough info in the replies there, I would've thought...
Star Alliance FFPs: Asiana Club vs EgyptAir Plus vs Turkish Airlines Miles&Smiles
If the information you're after is not supplied there, be specific instead of starting another thread asking the same general question...
Star Alliance FFPs: Asiana Club vs EgyptAir Plus vs Turkish Airlines Miles&Smiles
If the information you're after is not supplied there, be specific instead of starting another thread asking the same general question...
#9
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,511
Hi there!
I have a lot more flights coming next year, so I was wondering how to reach Star Alliance gold status in 2018 as fast as possible. I stumbled upon Asiana Club and EgyptAir Plus, both seeming pretty attractive. So, what is your opinion on reaching *Gold in 2018? It would be great if you could name your favored program and provide a basic outline. Thanks!
I have a lot more flights coming next year, so I was wondering how to reach Star Alliance gold status in 2018 as fast as possible. I stumbled upon Asiana Club and EgyptAir Plus, both seeming pretty attractive. So, what is your opinion on reaching *Gold in 2018? It would be great if you could name your favored program and provide a basic outline. Thanks!
If not, don't bother with Egyptair.
#10
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Programs: OZ Diamond (*G), KQ Asante Gold (ST+), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,511
If you're flying discount Y, consider Asiana Club as requiring 80k miles, because you'll only get 50% credit on most carriers. Also, avoid the LH group entirely. The discount economy fares earn 0%.
#11
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 187
To maintain *G with TK you need 37.5k miles in 24 months (not 12 months as you stated), that is less than OZ's 40k.
With MS that is only 30k over 24 months to maintain.
Of course, if you are after lifetime status, then OZ is the clear winner of the three (but if you are concerned of them going bankrupt would you want to put your lifetime eggs in this basket after all?)
#12
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I have a lot more flights coming next year, so I was wondering how to reach Star Alliance gold status in 2018 as fast as possible. I stumbled upon Asiana Club and EgyptAir Plus, both seeming pretty attractive. So, what is your opinion on reaching *Gold in 2018? It would be great if you could name your favored program and provide a basic outline. Thanks!
So the best way to earn a status really depends on how you travel. Unless you know that, it will be immature to pick a program.
FWIW - some people can earn a mid-level status simply by traveling on 1 RT.
#14
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, NH Plat, Former UA 1K
Posts: 5,665
I'm sure it was already asked in your other thread, but what carriers will you fly and what kinds of fares? You could for example fly 200,000 miles next year on heavily discounted TG economy fares and not earn a single mile in most, if not all programs, so the information you provide is too vague for anyone to help you.
#15
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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Posts: 8
Thanks for the replies. I figured the last thread was pretty specific and unhelpful to most people, whereas I had the impression that a more general discussion on *A FFPs in 2018 might appeal to more people. So, If you prefer other programs, please feel free to name them!
For the personal part: I fly on pretty much any airline that offers a cheap fare on my route (Middle Europe to US East Cost). And yes, most of my flights are discounted economy, which is why I always try to check the booking class beforehand. It's also the reason I am searching for a program with low mileage requirements. For me, the FFPs with segment requirements are mostly a bad option, because they only earn qualifying segments on a few airlines and not the whole *A.
Also, I had the impression, that compared to most US and EU carriers, Asiana has pretty good burn rates for upgrade and flight awards.
For the personal part: I fly on pretty much any airline that offers a cheap fare on my route (Middle Europe to US East Cost). And yes, most of my flights are discounted economy, which is why I always try to check the booking class beforehand. It's also the reason I am searching for a program with low mileage requirements. For me, the FFPs with segment requirements are mostly a bad option, because they only earn qualifying segments on a few airlines and not the whole *A.
Also, I had the impression, that compared to most US and EU carriers, Asiana has pretty good burn rates for upgrade and flight awards.