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kawoh Feb 18, 2004 4:56 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Wingnut:
Firstly, I think you need to bear in mind (if you're going for a supplementary card rather than a switch for your current FFP) that you should make it as easy for yourself to requalify as possible, which would lead you to bmi (38K) or AC (35K).
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Agree with Wingnut on this, i'm not entirely sure of award costs on BMI, but on AC they are reasonably competitive, particularly when you bear in mind the bonuses you get as you get to the 35K and beyond (see AC Forum for more details). But reminding that this is a 12 month rotational basis, and for some, it may be dificult clocking 35K PA on a 2nd'ary carrier.

If you want to enjoy the benefits of lounge access, priority boarding, quicker checkin (*G/biz class checkin when flying Y), extra baggage, some waitlist benefits and seat resevation benefits, and awards not too important (but to some extent) - I would opt for comp'ing on OZ (Asiana), why?

1. You'll automatically skip having to hit 100K over a 3 year period to get *G there.

2. Requalification ongoing, now that you've been comp'd *G, only requires 40k over a 3 year period... this is less than 15K PA... but offers you the flexibility of say doing 1 star RTW in year 2, none in year 1, and 15K or so in year 3 and you'll requal...... for another 3 years!

As I've said earlier, UA and LH have distinct benefits, but it's all based on your future travel plans ... and your propensity to consider flying Star in the future....



ajinlondon Feb 18, 2004 4:57 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Wingnut:
Firstly, I think you need to bear in mind (if you're going for a supplementary card rather than a switch for your current FFP) that you should make it as easy for yourself to requalify as possible, which would lead you to bmi (38K) or AC (35K).

Secondly, particularly with regard to ANDREWCX's concern about a "soft landing", bear in mind that on the whole * Silver is worthless unless you're flying the metal of your home carrier (there may be some exceptions to this, I think I've seen the odd business class check in sign for * Silver, but that's about it).

ajinlondon - again it comes down to whether you actually mean "switch", and, assuming you do, how many miles you'll fly. If you fly 50 to 100K, then LH is on the whole the best. If 50K is pushing it, then bmi where you have to go through some shenanigans to get full mileage credit on their own metal (search bmi forum for "Mileage Thievery") but get full credit for discount economy on all other carriers (save, I think, some very low ball SQ fares) might be the one.

As ever, it's very difficult to advise on choice of FFP unless you post a little detail about how much you fly, where you fly, and what cabin you're usually paying for.

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i just finished a AONE4 - with much thanks to this board, i think i got one of the last oneworld cheapies from Cairo, so i won't be spending much on flying or doing alot of distance for at least a year, then i may try a *rtw , so i am looking at a program that lasts for 2 yrs pref and gives 100% points in disc econ, for the few flights i will do in the mean time.
which i assume leaves me with M&M or BD ??
as the rtw would be in first or biz

Wingnut Feb 18, 2004 7:05 am

All this talk of 1K and Senator isn't really relevant; my understanding is that you get comped to the mid-level Gold (ie Prem Exec on UA).

As far as I'm aware (and I could be completely wrong here, best to check on the LH forum if no-one chimes in) it's only Senator that lasts for two years, not the level below.

So if the important thing is for the status to last more than one year, maybe Asiana is the answer for you.

demiurg Feb 18, 2004 8:18 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Wingnut:
As far as I'm aware (and I could be completely wrong here, best to check on the LH forum if no-one chimes in) it's only Senator that lasts for two years, not the level below.</font>
LH FTL (LH *S) also lasts for two years.

onlyflybmi/UA Feb 18, 2004 8:19 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ANDREWCX:
My question - which programs parachute you down (ie - fail to requal for gold (say sub 10k flying)then go to silver for the next year rather than dropping straight to base) - I know some other airlines do this (Northwest springs to mind) but am not sure in Star (I know UA doesn't but that is it).

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I believe UA has started 'parachuting' its members, (see UA forum). In particular there was a recent post by bagold on Feb 7 2004, [Topic: Only downgraded by 1 Elite Level!!!! (even though did not fly enough miles)].

Just thought I'd throw that in there http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Safe travels.

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nologic Feb 18, 2004 2:32 pm

While you generally can only get one comp once in a lifetime from an airline, I wonder if one could bounce around the *Alliance, say get a comp from OZ one year, and then UA another year, and then LH, etc., so that you really can get 10-15 years worth of *Gold out of it without flying * very much.

peter42 Feb 18, 2004 4:07 pm

Which * airlines offers the best benefits upon reaching gold, e.g. NZ gives you 2 SW voucher confirmable 72h in advance, what do the others offer?

Wingnut Feb 18, 2004 4:15 pm

See BlondeBomber's chart - second post in the thread...

Rudi Feb 18, 2004 5:54 pm

BlondeBomber's Star Alliance Gold Comparison Chart 2004

kawoh Feb 18, 2004 7:14 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Wingnut:
All this talk of 1K and Senator isn't really relevant; my understanding is that you get comped to the mid-level Gold (ie Prem Exec on UA).

As far as I'm aware (and I could be completely wrong here, best to check on the LH forum if no-one chimes in) it's only Senator that lasts for two years, not the level below.

So if the important thing is for the status to last more than one year, maybe Asiana is the answer for you.
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LH doesn't have a mid tier like UA PremEx, you either get FTL *S or SEN *G... so LH will have no choice BUT to give you SEN *G if matching top tier status on another airline, otherwise it really isn't like for like benefits compared to the other *A programs.

peter42 Feb 19, 2004 8:09 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Wingnut:
See BlondeBomber's chart - second post in the thread...</font>
ANA is missing from the chart e.g..

Gustaf Feb 24, 2004 4:04 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by nologic:
While you generally can only get one comp once in a lifetime from an airline, I wonder if one could bounce around the *Alliance, say get a comp from OZ one year, and then UA another year, and then LH, etc., so that you really can get 10-15 years worth of *Gold out of it without flying * very much.</font>
Hmm, what is the point with a *G card if one does not plan to fly *A?

In general, only US carriers do comps. European and Asian carriers does not generally comp at all. This UK comp promo is something completely new here in Europe http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Rudi Feb 24, 2004 4:35 am

This UK comp promo is something completely new here in Europe

two years ago, KLM did not only comp all other status holders, but did also comp existing mileage balances in other ff-programs.

I still have some hundred thousand miles left from that extraorinary comp offer (initially I was comped &gt; 800'000 miles from my UA Mileage Plus account)

Gustaf Feb 24, 2004 9:06 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rudi:
This UK comp promo is something completely new here in Europe

two years ago, KLM did not only comp all other status holders, but did also comp existing mileage balances in other ff-programs.

I still have some hundred thousand miles left from that extraorinary comp offer (initially I was comped &gt; 800'000 miles from my UA Mileage Plus account)
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Oh, sorry. This is the second comp promo in Europe then? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
Too bad I didn't find FT early enough to go for this KLM comp http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

GoldCircle Feb 24, 2004 9:38 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kawoh:
Yes, OZ is 3 years, but awards are much more expensive, but you can pool family members into the one a/c and you can requal with only 40k over 3 years (100k initially).
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I'm interested in hedging my bets... I have just requalified my BD*G, but due to a change in job, and consequently travel patters, it look like I won't re-qualify next year.

So, duration is the thing I'm looking for. I'll still put *A miles in to my BD account, but if I should fall from golden grace next year, then will OZ provide me with two further years of international lounge access on *A, if I comp on the basis of one of my other status cards - Delta, KLM, Aer Lingus?

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