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Qualifying for *G on all *A carriers

Old May 27, 03, 4:16 pm
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Qualifying for *G on all *A carriers

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by zvezda:
I'm slightly tempted to do a bunch of back-to-back CMB-SFO runs in F and collect all 14 *G cards. It would be good for dealing with the RCC matrons. "I need to show a *G card? You name one, and I'll show you that one."</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RichardMEL:
Mate if you did that I'll come to whatever RCC you care to name just to see this (and the shiny cards!).
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OK, mate. Reasonable routings include CMB-SIN-ICN-LAX-SFO-LAX-ICN-SIN-CMB or CMB-SIN-ICN-SEA-SFO-SEA-ICN-SIN-CMB. BKK instead of SIN is theoretically possible, but I don't want to fly TG more than I have to when I can fly on SQ and accumulate PPS sectors toward Lifetime PPS Solitaire. The transatlantic segments must be done on OZ because it's an OZ fare. You figure out how to allocate the miles among the different programs, and I may go for *G on all the *A FF programs.

I'm already qualified M&M SEN through Feb 2007 and SQ PPS is a gimee with repeated runs on SQ CMB-SIN-ICN and back. How many of these runs do I need to do in order to make *G in all the remaining programs? Tickets can be in C or F class.

The chart below (anyway to format it?) shows how many status miles or points are accrued to each plan for each sector in C/F (not including status bonuses). For SQ, PPS sector counts are shown, which will accrue on the SQ flights even though miles will be credited elsewhere.

CMB-SIN SIN-ICN ICN-LAX LAX-SFO
Base 1708 2874 5975 337
AC 2135/2562 3593/4311 7469/8963 506
BD 2562/3416 4311/5748 11950/17925 2400
JK 850/1072 1400/1750 2950/3688 250 (Star Points)
M&M 3416/5124 5748/8622 11950/17925 3000
MX 2135/2562 3593/4311 7469/8963 1500
NH 2135/2562 3593/4311 7469/8963 506
NZ 12/14 20/30 30/50 8 (Status Credits)
OZ 2135/2562 3593/4311 7469/8963 506
RG 1708/1708 2874/2874 5975/5975 500
SK 3416/3416 5748/5748 11950/11950 674
SQ 1.25/1.5 2.5/3 0/0 0 (PPS Sectors)
TG 2135/2562 3593/4311 7469/8963 506
UA 1708/1708 2874/2874 5975/5975 500
US 2135/2562 3593/4311 7469/8963 750

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Old May 27, 03, 4:44 pm
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minimum requirements:

1. Air Canada Aeroplan - 35K
2. Air New Zealand Air Points - 200 credits=?miles
3. ANA-50K
4. Asiana Airlines Diamond-100K
5. Miles and More (Austrian Airlines, Lauda Air, Lufthansa, Tyrolean Airways) Senator-100-150K (the easy way with the biggest bonuses for F)
6. bmi british midland Diamond Club Gold-54K
7. Mexicana Frecuenta Gold-50K
8. SAS Eurobonus Gold-55-100K (the easy way with big bonuses for F)
9. Singapore Airlines Kris Flyer Elite Gold-50K
10. Spanair-10K star points=? miles
11. Thai Airways International Royal Orchid Plus Gold-50K
12. United Airlines Mileage Plus PremEx-50K (the hard way-COS bonuses don't count for status)
13. VARIG Smiles-50K
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Old May 27, 03, 4:56 pm
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CMB-SIN-ICN-SEA-SFO return in F and credit to AC Aeroplan would earn 31740 status miles. Remember only 35K needed for Star Gold at AC.

I am sure you could find some UA connecting flight between SEA-SFO.

MX Frecuenta Star Gold requires 50K and MX gives you 50% on F class travel so that means you would earn the same 31740 here. Here is another suggestion MX credit SK flights with 200%. I would then suggest that you fly

CMB-BKK-SIN-ICN-SEA-SFO would be 34638 miles.

Since MX credit 300% for LH F it would be great if you could use one of LH inner Asian flights. Do they still fly to MNL or was it CGK?
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Old May 27, 03, 5:35 pm
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Well...I could imagine doing a lot of crazy things...but...that...respect if anyone actually goes through with THAT .

P.S.: And how much is that OZ fare you mentioned?

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Old May 27, 03, 7:35 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BlondeBomber:

9. Singapore Airlines Kris Flyer Elite Gold-50K
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Correction: 0 miles because Kris Flyer PPS (higher than Elite Gold and also counts as *G) can be earned on the basis of PPS sectors, with all miles credited to other *A FF programs.

Several of the programs grant status for longer than one year at a time. I know this is true for Miles and More and believe it is true to RG and OZ also. Is that right? Any others? My tentative plan would be to qualify this year for those plans which grant status for longer than one year and then to qualify for the remainder next year.

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Old May 27, 03, 7:38 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kempis:

I am sure you could find some UA connecting flight between SEA-SFO.

I would then suggest that you fly

CMB-BKK-SIN-ICN-SEA-SFO
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I thought RT tickets were limited to 4 segments in each direction. No?
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Old May 27, 03, 7:40 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by attorney28:
How much is that OZ fare you mentioned?

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US$1160 + taxes for C class and US$1760 + taxes for F class. See the current thread I started in the Mileage Run forum in which we collectively seem to have figured out how to get these ticketed.

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Old May 28, 03, 3:00 am
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I guess nobody holds all 14 *G cards!
You would be the man!
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Old May 28, 03, 8:40 am
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Obviously, it will make sense to credit particular segments to particular FF programs. However, as a first order approximation, I'm listing here how many RTs in C/F would be needed to qualify for each program if all segments were credited to that program.

AC 1.27/1.07
BD 1.27/0.91
JK 0.92/0.74
M&M already qualfied through Feb 2007
MX 1.70/1.44
NH 1.82/1.52
NZ 1.43/0.98
OZ 3.64/3.05
RG 2.26/2.26
SK 1.26/1.26
SQ qualification automatic based on PPS sectors
TG 1.82/1.52
UA 2.26/2.26
US 1.79/1.50

So, assuming no optimization of which segments were credited to which program and no other flying were done, then 16 or 17 First Class RTs would be needed. Realistically, I think it could be done in about 10 with good optimization.

This would have been dramatically easier a year ago -- before OZ joined.


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Old May 28, 03, 9:02 am
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Hey, you are also an UA 1P. So no need to qualify - unfortunately you might have to requalify.
Why do you bother about that kind of stuff ?
Do you have even more time than I do ?
Is it so comfortable to fly 10+ times out of Colombo ?
I would not do that, honestly, but anyway it is up to you. Thanks for keeping us up to date!
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Old May 28, 03, 9:57 am
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In this post I examine, for each FF program, which sectors yield the best results.

AC neutral
BD best done on F tickets ICN-SEA or ICN-LAX
JK neutral
M&M N/A
MX best done on LH flights outside CMB runs
NH neutral
NZ best done on F tickets SIN-ICN (6 OW segments yield 180 of 200 points needed)
OZ neutral
RG best done on C tickets
SK best done on C tickets
SQ N/A
TG neutral
UA SEA-SFO (or SEA-LAX) in order get miles toward MillionMiler.
US neutral

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Old May 28, 03, 4:34 pm
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how did you qualify for LH Sen thru 2/2007? I thought the max. is two years.
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Old May 28, 03, 8:43 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by vielflieger:
how did you qualify for LH Sen thru 2/2007? I thought the max. is two years.</font>
In 2002, I qualified through Feb 2005. That means that I needed to qualify for Mar 2005 through Feb 2007 during either 2003 or 2004. I qualified during Jan to Mar of this year.
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Old May 29, 03, 8:54 am
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Just for the record TG is one of those multi-year qualifying programs. IIRC their *G is 80k over 2 years or 50k in one year.

You say it would have been much easier before OZ joined, yet if this was before OZ joined the OZ fare you want to (ab)use wouldn't exist or be as useable, no?

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