In more & more FFPs discounted paid coach class tickets earn reduced mileage

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Apr 27, 2003, 6:16 am

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In more & more FFPs discounted paid coach class tickets earn reduced mileage

With the latest announcement of BD, there is another *A FFP where mileage earnings in coach class is based on the paid fare:

AC Aeroplan: for all AC scheduled flights between Canada and the Caribbean, the Bahamas and Bermuda:
M,B,T,H or V: 75% (minimum 375 miles)
Q, L, N, E, G, I, K, O, R or U: 50% (minimum 250 miles)

BD Diamond Club: H, E, Q, O, V, W: 50%; T, N (booked at flybmi.com): 25%

NH Mileage Club: Special discount fare: 70%, Inclusive tour fare 50%

NZ Airpoints: Discounted Y: 70% (= booking classes Q, V, W, T, L,G, S or K on NZ)

SQ KrisFlyer: V, Q, G or N on SQ: 0%

Apr 27, 2003, 8:44 am

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You might add that the EUR92 and EUR102 fares with LH earn only 500 miles from 1 May 2003. Booking Class T.

(They do not count towards the segement qualification method for LH)

Apr 27, 2003, 10:38 am

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SK EuroBonus has wen the other way. Still all booking classes earns 100%(min 600 international or 300 domestic Denmark) and you earn now 150% with Y booking class.

Apr 27, 2003, 8:28 pm

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There is a pretty valid business reason for discounting mileage/points credits for discounted fares: airlines have to pay their partner carriers for the miles/points credited, so low fares mean low or non existent margins from which to pay such costs.

Apr 28, 2003, 3:22 am

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Shareholder is right. Put another way: By offering reduced or no miles, airlines can offer lower fares. For infrequent flyers, that's a good deal.

Apr 28, 2003, 10:52 am

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Quote:

Originally posted by Shareholder:
There is a pretty valid business reason for discounting mileage/points credits for discounted fares: airlines have to pay their partner carriers for the miles/points credited, so low fares mean low or non existent margins from which to pay such costs.

Why is it though that most of these reductions are valid only on the carriers' own FF programmes?!
Several other *A FF programmes do not reduce for these booking classes...

Apr 28, 2003, 11:18 am

zvezda

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Originally posted by Point_Chaser:
Why is it though that most of these reductions are valid only on the carriers' own FF programmes?!
Several other *A FF programmes do not reduce for these booking classes...

It may just be that the others need time to catch up. Or it may be that outside of FT, people who do most of their flying on one airline and accrue the miles to another airline's FF program are rare even that the airlines don't want to add any more complexity to their rules.

Apr 29, 2003, 9:37 am

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Which fares are excluded to earn miles in OZ Club?

[This message has been edited by Patron (edited 04-29-2003).]

Apr 29, 2003, 10:44 am

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Doesn't UA only give 50% mileage credit for discounted AC fare within Canada? (just like the home carrier) It's a trend...

Apr 29, 2003, 10:46 am

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Note that as per this thread linking to this page on BD's website, the only *A airline's fares to earn reduced miles is BD itself - all other * carriers are good in discount coach for 100% miles.

Apr 30, 2003, 8:05 pm

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Quote:

Originally posted by Wingnut:
Note that as per this thread linking to this page on BD's website, the only *A airline's fares to earn reduced miles is BD itself - all other * carriers are good in discount coach for 100% miles.

Ah, but what you're forgetting about are all the fare codes it doesn't mention which get no points at all, e.g. deeply discounted SQ fares (G,X,N,Q,V) and some NZ domestic ones (L,G,S,K) for starters...