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TerryK Oct 5, 2013 1:17 pm

Pretty ludicrous speculation. "Divorce" from alliance is very expensive. It usually only happens in member bankruptcy or merger, neither is in the cards for CX.

OK, now that I have mentioned it, shall someone start a thread of CX bankruptcy? :D:p

Yes, CX may join *A if merged into, say, CA. CX is 18.77% owned by CA. But I don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.

TerryK Oct 5, 2013 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by NickP 1K (Post 21476199)
.....*OR* will be on their own new mini-Alliance where VS/VAustralia and SQ are further entrenched together and SQ isn't a part of a major alliance...

Why on earth will SQ participate in this?:confused::confused: SQ sold its 49% VS stake to DL. Why will DL, as 49% owner of VS, want this mini-alliance?:confused:

Savvy Traveler Oct 6, 2013 10:25 am

Adding my .02 to those who would like to see SQ out and CX in.

SQ is a lovely airline, but they are simply not playing by the rules of the club, and should be ejected from it.

J_Fleish Oct 6, 2013 11:48 am

In my opinion strategically I do not think it would make sense for CX to join star alliance. Star Alliance is already well positioned in Asia with CA Hubs at PEK, PVG and CTU, BR at TPE, NH at NRT, HND, OZ at ICN, Thai at BKK and SQ at SIN. People may argue that SIN may be poorly geographcally positioned it has it role for Inter Asia traffic to India and Australia. CX is important for Oneworld inter Asia traffic with oneworld hubs at NRT, HND, HKG, KUL and SIN, HKG is important for oneworld to keep being their only link to china. People may not realize by kicking out SQ Star Alliance may shoot themselves in the foot for an Indian Carrier, with Jet Airways tied to Etihad now and the gong show at AI. With SQ and Tata Group starting an Indian Full service carrier I could see it joining star in the future. Even though China is an important region Star already has a strong presence and India would be just as important to the Alliance.

nacho Oct 7, 2013 5:18 am

There is no *A flying HKG-LHR right now, am I right? If that's the case, then it would make sense for CX to be part of *A.

djjaguar64 Oct 7, 2013 7:32 am


Originally Posted by nacho (Post 21566468)
There is no *A flying HKG-LHR right now, am I right? If that's the case, then it would make sense for CX to be part of *A.

SQ/TG/NH/OZ do a great job currently for this route, it is a one stop albeit.

fpc552 Oct 9, 2013 4:08 pm

And LX. And LH via FRA. And LH via MUC.

Xiaotung Oct 12, 2013 10:00 pm

Just heard a recent speech by CX CEO John Slosar. He talked really highly of oneworld and their partner AA. Unless it is a new development or something beyond his control, it's hard to imagine CX is even considering leaving oneworld.

LAX Oct 13, 2013 1:48 am


Originally Posted by Xiaotung (Post 21598572)
Just heard a recent speech by CX CEO John Slosar. He talked really highly of oneworld and their partner AA. Unless it is a new development or something beyond his control, it's hard to imagine CX is even considering leaving oneworld.

I wish SQ's CEO would do the same for *A & UA.:D Now that the CX for SQ swap won't materialize.:p

LAX

IluvSQ Oct 13, 2013 7:45 am


Originally Posted by Xiaotung (Post 21598572)
Just heard a recent speech by CX CEO John Slosar. He talked really highly of oneworld and their partner AA. Unless it is a new development or something beyond his control, it's hard to imagine CX is even considering leaving oneworld.

That is why this thread is so nonsensical, and I can't believe so many
people are treating this as a serious topic.

GordonGordon Oct 13, 2013 8:00 am


Originally Posted by edison (Post 21557464)
I actually think NZ is worse than SQ in regard to releasing * award seats. At least SQ Y and non super premium J/F is available. You don't even get much in Y for NZ these days.

+1 can't agree more !

LH4116 Dec 29, 2013 2:18 pm

I don't think BR nor SQ would approve if CX was admitted into *A.

NickP 1K Dec 30, 2013 9:39 pm

SQ doesn't get much out of * - so the question must be if SQ forgo's a formal Alliance (like EK does on avoiding one) does TG and BR really put up much of a stink.

To be brutally to the point CX, QF and JL cover a great deal of Asia Pac. Better in cases than * Alliance where you backtrack painfully through PEK, ICN or NRT. Having the HKG hub is fairly centrally located and then having QF for Australia feed makes it compelling. If I did do a permanent relocation in the region CX is a great Airline with a great Alliance. Adding in MH recently makes the reach a little better in ASEAN but CX had that nearly all covered. NH out of NRT isn't well covered to ASEAN and TG is a two stop trek to BKK for Trans-pacific originating pax's. * got a little better with BR coming in but their frequency isn't great


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