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JBHighRoller Nov 14, 2012 7:21 pm

Valid Route Help
 
I'm new to calculating MPM and understanding route limitations on awards. I signed up for ExpertFlyer but I'm having a bit of trouble understanding whether my route is valid under the limits.

Below is the data from a route I put into EF for CLT-LAX-SIN-MLE, but I can't figure out how to decipher it. Is it a valid routing? Thanks!

CLT YY LAX YY SIN YY MLE /14NOV12
************************************************** ***********

CTY GI TPM CUM MPM EMS DED LAST NEXT 25M

CLT 1
1. LAX 1 - 2121 2121
2. SIN 3 PA 8763 10884 11929 0M 0 0 1045 14911
3. MLE 3 PA 2112 12996 11384 15M 0 473 95 14230

Jimgotkp Nov 14, 2012 7:36 pm

Which program will you been redeeming miles from?

JBHighRoller Nov 14, 2012 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by Jimgotkp (Post 19685322)
Which program will you been redeeming miles from?

Going to try to book 2 tickets. 1 with United miles and 1 with US Air.

skimthetrees Nov 14, 2012 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by JBHighRoller (Post 19685274)
I'm new to calculating MPM and understanding route limitations on awards. I signed up for ExpertFlyer but I'm having a bit of trouble understanding whether my route is valid under the limits.

Below is the data from a route I put into EF for CLT-LAX-SIN-MLE, but I can't figure out how to decipher it. Is it a valid routing? Thanks!

CLT YY LAX YY SIN YY MLE /14NOV12
************************************************** ***********

CTY GI TPM CUM MPM EMS DED LAST NEXT 25M

CLT 1
1. LAX 1 - 2121 2121
2. SIN 3 PA 8763 10884 11929 0M 0 0 1045 14911
3. MLE 3 PA 2112 12996 11384 15M 0 473 95 14230

So, CLT -> LAX -> SIN -> MLE (all in Y) ?

It's definitely a valid routing. I was able to plug some dates in ual.com and get a quote on it for a different date from yours. Saver Y is 40,000 miles (one way with UA miles) plus taxes.

2/19 CLT-LAX (US 1431)
2/19 LAX-SIN (SQ 11)
2/21 SIN-MLE (SQ 452)

I selected a multiple destinations trip and put in each segment separately.

Wether or not you can get this on short notice as a saver award is a different story.

JBHighRoller Nov 14, 2012 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by skimthetrees (Post 19685531)
So, CLT -> LAX -> SIN -> MLE (all in Y) ?

It's definitely a valid routing. I was able to plug some dates in ual.com and get a quote on it for a different date from yours. Saver Y is 40,000 miles plus taxes.

2/19 CLT-LAX (US 1431)
2/19 LAX-SIN (SQ 11)
2/21 SIN-MLE (SQ 452)

I selected a multiple destinations trip and put in each segment separately.

Wether or not you can get this on short notice as a saver award is a different story.


Not Y. Looking for Business or First. The trip won't be until Dec. 2013, I just put that date in there as a dummy. Great news that it is valid! Are the mileage requirements for the award consistent across the *A carriers?

vbroucek Nov 14, 2012 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by JBHighRoller (Post 19685544)
Not Y. Looking for Business or First. The trip won't be until Dec. 2013, I just put that date in there as a dummy. Great news that it is valid! Are the mileage requirements for the award consistent across the *A carriers?

Nope, each FFP has different mileage requirements...

Jimgotkp Nov 14, 2012 8:38 pm

You should be fine with both United and US Air. However, the problem is that SQ doesn't release C/F on their long-haul flights. So, you would have to do another routing.

sbm12 Nov 17, 2012 11:26 am

UA doesn't enforce MPM for awards so no worries there. For US you would put in CLT-MLE and then get the MPM there; don't put in the whole routing. Once you have the number for the city pair in question then you have to see if your desired routing is higher or lower than the number you get from MPM.

JBHighRoller Nov 17, 2012 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 19700914)
UA doesn't enforce MPM for awards so no worries there. For US you would put in CLT-MLE and then get the MPM there; don't put in the whole routing. Once you have the number for the city pair in question then you have to see if your desired routing is higher or lower than the number you get from MPM.

Thank you! Is there any overage tolerance at all?

sbm12 Nov 17, 2012 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by JBHighRoller (Post 19701763)
Thank you! Is there any overage tolerance at all?

A quick scan of the interwebs suggests that there is no MPM overage allowed officially but also that US agents apparently don't check it very often. Good luck.

PHLyer82 Nov 22, 2012 7:18 am

When using 2 different sets of miles, I would prepare for the possibility that to make it work you may need to fly separately. Not saying it has to be that way, but if you are open to that the booking process might be easier for you.

JBHighRoller Nov 22, 2012 9:29 am


Originally Posted by PHLyer82 (Post 19728931)
When using 2 different sets of miles, I would prepare for the possibility that to make it work you may need to fly separately. Not saying it has to be that way, but if you are open to that the booking process might be easier for you.

It's for a honeymoon trip so I am decidedly against that. Hopefully I can avoid that problem.

IggySD Nov 23, 2012 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by JBHighRoller (Post 19729468)
It's for a honeymoon trip so I am decidedly against that. Hopefully I can avoid that problem.

UA allows one way awards and I think US does as well so it may be best to go outbound on one carrier and inbound on the other if you have issues with availability not matching up. The downside is you lose the opportunity for a stop over and potentially double any change fees.

skimthetrees Nov 23, 2012 11:22 pm


Originally Posted by IggySD (Post 19735903)
UA allows one way awards and I think US does as well so it may be best to go outbound on one carrier and inbound on the other if you have issues with availability not matching up. The downside is you lose the opportunity for a stop over and potentially double any change fees.

UA one ways are allowed no problem. US, not really. From the Dividend Miles page on US:

5.All award tickets must be issued and ticketed for roundtrip travel. One-way ticketing is permitted but will be issued at a roundtrip value.


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