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If you are going to be flying mostly domestic, I'd go with US. Upgrades are basically guaranteed on most routes for top tier elites, and I'd say that they are the most reliable airline in the country. Rare to see delays on US...
If you don't fly LH that much, I wouldn't go with LH... UACO is going through major program devaluation, so I'd say that US is a much better choice. |
Hi I will appreciate some advice on the *a choice for the following conditions I am interested in:
1. 2x status miles for business class and 3x status miles for first (including us domestic f/a 2. Minimum threshold for *a gold (Aegean is not an option) (1) What is your home airport? LHR (2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Z/C (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 50k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Bd *G (thus the need to choose another one due to imminent bd demise) (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Easy redemptions into economy class tatl and tpac, 200% mileage accrual on all business class fares (6) Which routes do you fly most often tatl us west coast, Malaysia, china (7) Preferred airlines: none (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work. Limited to cheapest business class fare available at the purchase date. This forces me to keep membership in more than one alliance and therefore I am quite sensitive to the threshold of achieving*a gold. Many thanks in advance. AX |
Originally Posted by AX9465
(Post 17679290)
Hi I will appreciate some advice on the *a choice for the following conditions I am interested in:
1. 2x status miles for business class and 3x status miles for first (including us domestic f/a 2. Minimum threshold for *a gold (Aegean is not an option) (1) What is your home airport? LHR (2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Z/C (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 50k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? Bd *G (thus the need to choose another one due to imminent bd demise) (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Easy redemptions into economy class tatl and tpac, 200% mileage accrual on all business class fares (6) Which routes do you fly most often tatl us west coast, Malaysia, china (7) Preferred airlines: none (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Work. Limited to cheapest business class fare available at the purchase date. This forces me to keep membership in more than one alliance and therefore I am quite sensitive to the threshold of achieving*a gold. Many thanks in advance. AX At first blush MM looks ok if 2x for Z and higher is critical, but I would probably look at UA MP more closely and choose it. at 50k you get premier gold so there's your gold status for lounges in europe. Good svc to asia, etc. And at 1p you get free E+ at booking as well. downside is that biz fares earn 1.5x eqm. Downside is not the greatest timetable from UK. |
Originally Posted by snod08
(Post 17677288)
Well, Star Alliance (LH/LX/SA) is better generally with respect to your EU / S.Africa travels. (and CO/UA/SQ/NH for US to Asia).
From ABQ you may have to connect elsewhere (e.g., PHX, LAX, SFO, Etc). If you feel that your US Domestic flying will be much more in percentage than the international, then you can go for US or UA-CO as your choice program. With US, you will reach Chairman status, and almost always get upgraded on domestic flights. With UA, you will reach 1K status...however, higher-fare paying elites (especially anyone on Y/B fares) will have higher priority for domestic upgrades. Its an interesting difference between systems on upgrades. I can buy SLUT tickets on DL because fare class is a 3rd level tie breaker. Status is everything with them. However, upgrades on TATL for DL are virtually nonexistent so I have to use my precious system wide upgrade (SWU) certificates from a YBM fare to get business.
Originally Posted by snod08
(Post 17677288)
If your international travel will be much higher than domestic US, then choose LH. You will get chance for international op-ups on sold-out flights, etc (especially since you are on Y/B/M fares).
Originally Posted by snod08
(Post 17677288)
If you can reach 100K miles for sure and another 50K more, then, you almost have the option to choose two programs.
LH and CO-UA have a Joint Venture. So, most fare classes earn 100%; and some of the lowest fares earn 50% on international itineraries. This is one big advantage in my opinion...because AF/KL are very stingy in giving miles to many of the lower fare classes.
Originally Posted by snod08
(Post 17677288)
On the other hand...you can reach DL Diamond with 125K miles (correct?)... Then you are top-tier there......Dont know much about DL. But the DM folks sure are happy in the DL forum!
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Originally Posted by OnTimePlease
(Post 17680581)
I just can't stand the attitude with US. I was based in PGH when it was a hub and had more than my "fare" share of attitude from those folks. I am seriously looking at UA/CO and have been lurking on their section of FT.
US is probably the most elite friendly airline in the country in my opinion. Particularly with lower levels (silver/gold), but even for upper levels, they have done less "enhancements" (devaluations) compared to other airlines. In addition, they are one of the most reliable airlines in the country. They've really gotten their on time percentages in good shape over the last few years. |
Originally Posted by OnTimePlease
(Post 17680581)
I just can't stand the attitude with US. I was based in PGH when it was a hub and had more than my "fare" share of attitude from those folks. I am seriously looking at UA/CO and have been lurking on their section of FT.
Its an interesting difference between systems on upgrades. I can buy SLUT tickets on DL because fare class is a 3rd level tie breaker. Status is everything with them. However, upgrades on TATL for DL are virtually nonexistent so I have to use my precious system wide upgrade (SWU) certificates from a YBM fare to get business. In terms of miles, my international travel exceeds domestic, but in terms of segments I am still domestically biased. I'd say 70/30 in 2012 Forgive me but I'm not up to speed on the mile structure. Is the 50% a bonus FF mileage? I need to look at a comparison of the FF programs but was holding out until I could narrow the candidates. 125K is correct. I'm not mad at Delta but some poor CSR phone experiences and a few policy changes have given me pause. If I'm going to spend significant hard earned money on both myself and my staff, I would appreciate some courtesy. It feels like the airlines are too focused on short-term gains and not longer term customer relationship management. Since money talks, I am very content to take my business to another carrier/alliance if it makes sense. Delta touts loyalty but you keep getting these letters on how they have improved the system by taking something away. Thats just insulting.
Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
(Post 17681094)
US is a completely different airline today than it was in those days. Today, US Airways is just the name for America West, the airline that basically took them over a few years ago during bankruptcy proceedings. The US Airways of old is very different than the one today.
US is probably the most elite friendly airline in the country in my opinion. Particularly with lower levels (silver/gold), but even for upper levels, they have done less "enhancements" (devaluations) compared to other airlines. In addition, they are one of the most reliable airlines in the country. They've really gotten their on time percentages in good shape over the last few years. However, US is getting better. Mileage-redemption wise, they are really good and not as stingy as many other partners. Their new Envoy Flat-bed product is rated very highly. They offer the chance to buy-up to Envoy on TATLs (like for 300-500$ over your Y fare on the day of travel) With UA-CO, you will reach top-mileage-tier 1k after 100K miles. However, with your domestic cheapo fares..your upgrade chances will go down quickly (depending on the market of course). What i was suggesting is getting mid-tier in say UA-CO or US (50K miles); Then, getting 100K LH-SEN status for your TATL, etc. If you truly buy Y/B TATL/TPAC fares, then, you will start earning bonuses on the EQM's quickly. So, in reality, you may not need to fly all the 100K for the LHSEN, but fly about 75K or so and get the rest on fare-class bonus. DL just devalued its transcon mileage redemption...to a ridiculous 80K plus or something like that!!!! DL SWU has not been very useful reading the DL boards. Its a tough choice!!! |
Aeroplan Elite to?
(1) What is your home airport?
- SFO (2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, Y, etc.) - Discounted Economy Fares (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k) - 35k-40k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (UA Premier, M&M Senator etc) - Aeroplan Elite (Star Alliance Gold) (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? (Frequent upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, good award redemption rates, free lounge access, etc.) - Lounge access, redemption rates (6) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific etc) - US Domestic (7) Preferred Airlines - n/a (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) - mostly work, fly United/Continental and occasionally US Air or AC Wanting to switch from devalued Aeroplan... |
Now BMI's departure from *A is imminent i need to look for a new home. ROP and SQ KF are not for me.
(1) What is your home airport? SIN (2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? (C, F, And Y) (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? (<25k on * which is usually enought to reach status with class multipliers) (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? (9 years of BD*G) (5) What is most important to you in a ffp? (Class if service multiplier Cx2 Fx3, miles dont expire, low treshold to Gold) (6) Which routes do you fly most often (Asia-europe) (7) Preferred Airlines (TG, SQ) (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (both, i can make my own choices.) Any advise? Thanks, Globalist |
Originally Posted by sniles
(Post 17673047)
Thinking about a switch away from BD. Any suggestions?
(1) What is your home airport? PVG & SHA (2) What types of fares do you usually buy? China Domestic: F & Y International: C & Y (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 50,000-80,000 (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? *A: BMI Diamond Club Gold ST: KLM AF Flying Blue Platinum ST: China Eastern Basic (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Upgrades & good award redemption (6) Which routes do you fly most often? China domestic and transpacific (7) Preferred Airlines Transpacific: NH, AC, DL (will avoid UA if possible) China Domestic: MU (CA when applicable out of PVG/SHA) (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? For work in C & F (domestic) For personal in Y Personally am thinking NH's program as i see myself flying them for my trans-pacific flights in the future given my recent experiences. Are there any cons? Not sure i'd pick Aeroplan as i've read about recent devaluations. OZ i'm not sure about as i don't think i'd fly them to transpac given their inferior C product (no flat bed on routes i fly). UA could be an option, but i won't fly them as long as they are still refurbishing their 777s. LH could be an option as i use them for Europe flights when not on SkyTeam's KLM. |
Originally Posted by sniles
(Post 17691212)
Bumping this as i've got a few C flights coming up in next few weeks. Any suggestions?
Personally am thinking NH's program as i see myself flying them for my trans-pacific flights in the future given my recent experiences. Are there any cons? Not sure i'd pick Aeroplan as i've read about recent devaluations. OZ i'm not sure about as i don't think i'd fly them to transpac given their inferior C product (no flat bed on routes i fly). UA could be an option, but i won't fly them as long as they are still refurbishing their 777s. LH could be an option as i use them for Europe flights when not on SkyTeam's KLM. Of course, LH C class still does not have a full flat bed. You can choose to fly the long hauls on the airlines that have nice products. |
(1) What is your home airport?
JFK/LGA/EWR (2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Economy (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 5k - 30k - really depends on the year (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? none (5) What is most important to you in a ffp? Star alliance awards to Turkey (usually LH, TK). This is what I care about most. In particular, award availability and low booking fees and fuel surcharges. I try to book business awards when possible (6) Which routes do you fly most often NYC to Denver and San Juan (domestic) and NYC to Istanbul (international) (7) Preferred Airlines No preference for domestic carriers. Prefer Turkish Airlines internationally since they have non-stop flights form JFK -> IST (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both In summary, all I really care about are flight awards (econ and business) and upgrades from NYC to Istanbul. Don't care much about status. I think I belong in a domestic FFP because of the absurd fuel charges on most international programs (I've purchased C class awards on Aeroplan and LH - typically cost ~$400 per ticket). What concerns me are *A flight redemptions on US or UA - there are a lot of mixed opinions on these forum regarding availability so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this. I also earn a lot of miles using credit cards (e.g., Amex MR transfers). Thanks in advance for any help and insight. |
Originally Posted by AirD0c
(Post 17693633)
(1) What is your home airport?
JFK (2) What types of fares do you usually buy? Economy (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 5k - 30k - really depends on the year (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? none (5) What is most important to you in a ffp? Star alliance awards to Turkey (usually LH, TK). This is what I care about most. In particular, award availability and low booking fees and fuel surcharges. I try to book business awards when possible (6) Which routes do you fly most often JFK to Denver and San Juan (domestic) and JFK to Istanbul (international) (7) Preferred Airlines No preference for domestic carriers. Prefer Turkish Airlines internationally since they have non-stop flights form JFK -> IST (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Both In summary, all I really care about are flight awards (econ and business) and upgrades from JFK to Istanbul. Don't care much about status. I think I belong in a domestic FFP because of the absurd fuel charges on most international programs (I've purchased C class awards on Aeroplan and LH - typically cost ~$400 per ticket). What concerns me are *A flight redemptions on US or UA - there are a lot of mixed opinions on these forum regarding availability so I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this. I also earn a lot of miles using credit cards (e.g., Amex MR transfers). Thanks in advance for any help and insight. If you care about status, go to Aegean (A3) or Turkish (TK)....taxes / surcharges will NOT be low. |
(1) What is your home airport? SFO
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Bus Class Int, Coach Domestic (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 120k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? UA 1k (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Domestic upgrades and easy award redemption (6) Which routes do you fly most often SFO to Asia and Latam and some Europe (7) Preferred Airlines SQ (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Mostly work (business class intl) and some personal travel |
Originally Posted by IlliniRon
(Post 17694933)
(1) What is your home airport? SFO
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Bus Class Int, Coach Domestic (3) How many miles do you usually fly each year? 120k (4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? UA 1k (5) What is most important to you in a FFP? Domestic upgrades and easy award redemption (6) Which routes do you fly most often SFO to Asia and Latam and some Europe (7) Preferred Airlines SQ (8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? Mostly work (business class intl) and some personal travel |
Originally Posted by snod08
(Post 17695005)
Any reason you dont want to stick to UA 1k ??
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