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Garimi Apr 18, 2021 5:16 am

Gibraltar/Spain border control
 
I have 20 days holiday in May from 24 May...
Due current leaks looks like GIB will be green and 7 other countries...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/1468...es-green-list/

So my plan is go to US but now I must be outside EU/UK for 14 days to enter US which this trip is in big when they open for UK ?

My backup plan is to abandon trip to US and

go to Portugal/Spain/Gibraltar already booked one way from GIB to LHR.

I wonder how is situation on GIB/Spain border is it passport checks?
I can "quarantine to be green" in GIB for 10 nights but if border is open... almost anybody can fly to LHR from GIB

And what about passport controls at GIB now entering by plane and departure?
EU agreed to GIB be in Schengen zone so is it already no border checks to/from Spain

KARFA Apr 18, 2021 5:29 am

I don't believe the agreement to get GIB in to Schengen has been implemented yet so there should still be checks between GIB and ES.

For non ES/EU citizens you can only enter ES atm if you have residency there.

I don't understand how you intend to get from GIB to the US without transiting UK or a Schengen country? Any transit of these within the last 14 days will prevent you entering the US on an ESTA. (EDIT: or are you also expecting the US to lift the ban at least for UK and GIB?)

mikeyfly Apr 18, 2021 5:35 am

I wouldn’t read anything into tabloids speculating on the travel corridors / traffic light system. Only a week ago a load of different countries were speculated, not matching these! I do agree very much that GIB will feature though

Garimi Apr 18, 2021 5:42 am

I have EU passport so I can enter Schengen zone,

my GIB trip is only then I cannot go to US

KARFA Apr 18, 2021 5:46 am

Aha, I see. Apologies I thought the GIB trip was to precede going to the US.

In that case yes it is fairly likely GIB would be green. However I suspect Spain and Portugal may be amber so if you return to the UK within 10 days of being in either country you will have to comply with the restrictions for amber countries in the UK.

Garimi Apr 18, 2021 5:47 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 33185820)
I don't believe the agreement to get GIB in to Schengen has been implemented yet so there should still be checks between GIB and ES.

For non ES/EU citizens you can only enter ES atm if you have residency there.

I don't understand how you intend to get from GIB to the US without transiting UK or a Schengen country? Any transit of these within the last 14 days will prevent you entering the US on an ESTA. (EDIT: or are you also expecting the US to lift the ban at least for UK and GIB?)

I think US/UK ban will end middle may then I can go to US,

I have also normal US tourist visa (not ESTA) is it some difference to enter with this visa now? or still if 14 days in EU then sorry You not allowed?

KARFA Apr 18, 2021 6:13 am


Originally Posted by Garimi (Post 33185832)
I think US/UK ban will end middle may then I can go to US,

I have also normal US tourist visa (not ESTA) is it some difference to enter with this visa now? or still if 14 days in EU then sorry You not allowed?

Ys, so some visa types are still allowed even from UK/Schengen, but not tourist B-2 visas. So you would not be allowed to enter on that if you had been in the UK/Schengen in the preceding 14 days.

KeaneJohn Apr 18, 2021 6:15 am


Originally Posted by Garimi (Post 33185832)
I think US/UK ban will end middle may then I can go to US,

I have also normal US tourist visa (not ESTA) is it some difference to enter with this visa now? or still if 14 days in EU then sorry You not allowed?

I think it’s wishful thinking that the US will be open for 17 May without having to go somewhere else for 14 days.

You can still currently only enter (with ESTA or visa) if you can adhere to the NIE rules which have been revised and now do not include visits of financial importance to the US so if ‘essential’ travel restrictions are being tightened I can’t see tourist restrictions relaxing but as we have seen over the last year anythIng can and will happen and it’s a month before the middle of may

if I was a gambling man I’d say GIB would be green so subject to the restrictions in place. I’d expect border controls to be in place to Spain at Gibraltar and of course hope that you don’t get a divert to Malaga that could scupper any plans if Spain is in a different zone.

lost_in_translation Apr 18, 2021 6:26 am


Originally Posted by mikeyfly (Post 33185824)
I wouldn’t read anything into tabloids speculating on the travel corridors / traffic light system. Only a week ago a load of different countries were speculated, not matching these! I do agree very much that GIB will feature though

From what I can tell The Sun's sources are literally just the Robert Boyle modelling piece that was published a few days ago as the list appears to be exactly the same! I don't think we'll know for a few weeks yet where is likely to be green but I tend to agree that if anywhere is green, GIB will be.

LCY8737 Apr 18, 2021 6:34 am

I quite like GIB, but the idea of spending a full holiday there seems pretty boring to me. When they call it the rock, that is for a reason...

wb1969 Apr 18, 2021 8:09 am


Originally Posted by LCY8737 (Post 33185874)
I quite like GIB, but the idea of spending a full holiday there seems pretty boring to me. When they call it the rock, that is for a reason...

Agreed. Perfect for a long weekend, especially after the nightmare of the last 15 months. I managed to get there for a couple of days in October and am booked to go again in June for a few days R&R at the Rock Hotel.

lcylocal Apr 18, 2021 8:41 am


Originally Posted by lost_in_translation (Post 33185867)
From what I can tell The Sun's sources are literally just the Robert Boyle modelling piece that was published a few days ago as the list appears to be exactly the same! I don't think we'll know for a few weeks yet where is likely to be green but I tend to agree that if anywhere is green, GIB will be.

I think it is probably the Sunday Telegraph piece. The source for which in turn was Robert Boyle’s blog!

Robert’s piece looked like a solid piece of analysis but ultimately these are going to be political decisions based on the advice of officials within the framework. The same thing that is playing out with the red-listing, or not, of India. I’m not sure yet we have any insight yet into how they are thinking.

rockflyertalk Apr 18, 2021 8:55 am

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...39c8c34f5.jpeg

It’s a great place to fly from as one might want to watch your aircraft coming in before the turnaround.

I thought I’d make it a bit BA relevant! :D

ratechaser Apr 18, 2021 11:17 am


Originally Posted by LCY8737 (Post 33185874)
I quite like GIB, but the idea of spending a full holiday there seems pretty boring to me. When they call it the rock, that is for a reason...

Mes RC tells me that she would happily spend a holiday with The Rock.

I think I'll leave it there while there's some ambiguity...

csycsycsy Oct 22, 2024 6:01 am

https://www.preferente.com/opinion/e...es-339870.html

Interesting...how does BA get around this or this is a new thing


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