Covid-19 Spain

Old Mar 13, 2020, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by thatsthebadger
Does anyone have an up to date analysis of what is happening in Mallorca please? I am due to fly there for a weeks holiday tomorrow morning early and am totally unsure whether to go or not.
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It's not looking good.

https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com...d-majorca.html
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 4:53 pm
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Yeah I saw that this morning. But the situation seems to be moving fast and I was looking for anything more up to date.
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by thatsthebadger
Yeah I saw that this morning. But the situation seems to be moving fast and I was looking for anything more up to date.
That is about the most up to date I can find. As you say, the situation is changing very rapidly and I expect the restrictions to become much more severe. The lockdowns in other parts of Spain, as mentioned by LapLap attest to this.

I cannot advise you on what to do, as everyone has different ideas on the lockdowns and different levels of risk tolerance. I can tell you, however, that I have left Spain today, due to the worsening situation.
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by thatsthebadger
Does anyone have an up to date analysis of what is happening in Mallorca please? I am due to fly there for a weeks holiday tomorrow morning early and am totally unsure whether to go or not.
Bed time for me, but I will leave you with this Mallorca headline
https://www.diariodemallorca.es/mall...s/1494204.html

quickly - the President of the Balearic Islands has been in conversation this evening with the main government asking for urgent action to restrict entry to the islands’ three main airports.

She said she had already implemented harsh confinement measures and had asked for his help, in order to protect the people of the Baleares (which includes Mallorca), to restrict flights.

the answer is - if you are allowed in with your flight tomorrow you would very likely not be able to get back as (and I cannot remember seeing any exception to this) everything that was introduced today was for a minimum of two weeks.

Even if you do go, it’s likely you will be in state of containment.

my advice - don’t go

and another article
just as in Valencia and Galicia all the leisure facilities, bars and restaurants are all closed for the next 15 days
https://www.diariodemallorca.es/mall...s/1494090.html

there are currently about 26 confirmed cases on the islands - they have no interest in accepting visitors who might increase that number with imported cases, but, having sad that, Mallorca just allowed in 3,000 passengers from Palermo in Italy
https://www.diariodemallorca.es/mall...s/1493778.html
how they are maintaining the logic of a pro-boat anti-flight stance I do not know, this may also change shortly.

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Originally Posted by LapLap
Friday 13th March

9pm (CET)
CATALONIA HAS JUST BEEN PUT INTO LOCKDOWN
The army has just been brought in to enforce it

https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-...n-directo.html
How severe is this lockdown?

I have read through this and a couple of other linked articles, but my Spanish is not quite good enough to get all of the nuances.

As far as I understand it, this involves the prohibition of all entry at ports, airports and by rail.

A linked article mentions that the Catalan government has requested assistance from the federal government in enforcing the restrictions, while another states that residents of four municipalities of Barcelona are being prevented from leaving those areas.

Am I missing something? Is this a full, Italian style lockdown? Are people being prevented from leaving Catalonia?
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 5:37 pm
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LapLap - thank you.
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Originally Posted by The_Bouncer
How severe is this lockdown?
details are still being negotiated and hammered out, but it involves limiting freedom of movement.
heres an English article with some of the emerging information (I have to sleep)
https://www.catalannews.com/politics...lonia-lockdown
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 10:07 pm
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Originally Posted by thatsthebadger
Does anyone have an up to date analysis of what is happening in Mallorca please? I am due to fly there for a weeks holiday tomorrow morning early and am totally unsure whether to go or not.
Are you serious? https://www.majorcadailybulletin.com...d-majorca.html

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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To be fair, it’s not completely crazy to not want to rule out being in Mallorca if the alternative is staying in England. I wouldn’t say it is the responsible thing to do but I would understand why someone would still consider going.
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We pulled out. Thanks for all input. Now we face a conversation with BA about whether we lose all our money, providing we get through to them of course!
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Originally Posted by thatsthebadger
We pulled out. Thanks for all input. Now we face a conversation with BA about whether we lose all our money, providing we get through to them of course!
I had to call BA last week to confirm acceptance of a flight schedule change. There was some fault on the website that prevented me from doing it online. This was before things were as bad now and it still took 40 minutes.

Don’t put it off, things are only going to get worse.

My husband is due to fly back with BA to London from Aberdeen next weekend, we’ll see how that goes.
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Saturday 14th March

”Cabinet bans all journeys in Spain apart from to get to work or buy food

The government is essentially locking down the country, in measures that will go into force at 8am on Monday March 16”

Full article in English here:
https://english.elpais.com/society/2...hase-food.html


Spanish cities Seville, Granada and Crdoba cancel Easter processions in bid to slow coronavirus infections
English article:
https://english.elpais.com/society/2...nfections.html
since this English article was published, more Spanish cities and regions have also announced that their Holy Week processions and celebrations have been cancelled. In Spanish, but the city names should be self-explanatory
https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-...ronavirus.html


“No time to lose” with state of alarm, say biology experts

”The Spanish Cabinet will today implement the most drastic measures taken so far in a bid to halt the spread of the coronavirus, by putting in place a state of alarm that will give the central government more powers. Over the next two weeks, the government of Prime Minister Pedro Snchez will be able to limit the circulation of citizens, take control of businesses or premises – including hotels, in a bid to ease the burden of hospitals – and give orders to guarantee supply to the markets.”

article in English
https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-03-14/no-time-to-lose-with-state-of-alarm-say-biology-experts.html

Coronavirus: Jet2 flights to Spain turn round in mid-air over virus fears

Jet2 planes heading to Spain have been turned around in mid-air as the airline cancelled all flights to the mainland, Balearic Islands and the Canary Islands because of coronavirus.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51887707

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At 10pm there was a nationwide show of support for the health workers on the front lines.
It was a call via WhatsApp and other forms of Social Media for a public show of acclamation and appreciation for the extreme efforts of everyone involved in keeping them alive.
https://verne.elpais.com/verne/2020/...37_126537.html
An article in English was translated for this beautiful story:
https://english.elpais.com/verne/202...ronavirus.html

And you? What are you doing to flatten the curve?
Every day, El Pais will be relaying the efforts of private citizens and small business who are putting their own efforts into controlling the tide of Covid-19 infections. Stirring stuff!
https://verne.elpais.com/verne/2020/...60_388468.html

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Wanted to thank you LapLap for all the information you are posting. I has been actively following this thread for a couple of weeks as I was supposed to travel to Spain for vacation (DFW-MAD) tomorrow. The information you provide has been invaluable. Obviously I've canceled the trip. I was booked in smaller Spanish hotels in Madrid and Seville which have both graciously offered future credit for my non refundable bookings.

I am continuing to follow the thread daily now to follow the progress in Spain as I feel like Italy and Spain are a good indication of what is coming elsewhere.

The_Bouncer, did you make it to France ok?
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I am continuing to follow the thread daily now to follow the progress in Spain as I feel like Italy and Spain are a good indication of what is coming elsewhere.
Thank you, Im really glad that my own attempt to understand what has been happening has helped you too.

But that was another thing I hadnt realised, that what has happened in Spain would not be an indication of what is happening in England. England has instead decided to take another route (which might explain that odd retraction from the announcement on the 5th March to change from containment to delay
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-13/...t-coronavirus/
I honestly do not believe that the English government has the competence to pull off, much less understand the implications of their herd immunity plans.
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Originally Posted by MorganB
Wanted to thank you LapLap for all the information you are posting. I has been actively following this thread for a couple of weeks as I was supposed to travel to Spain for vacation (DFW-MAD) tomorrow. The information you provide has been invaluable. Obviously I've canceled the trip. I was booked in smaller Spanish hotels in Madrid and Seville which have both graciously offered future credit for my non refundable bookings.

I am continuing to follow the thread daily now to follow the progress in Spain as I feel like Italy and Spain are a good indication of what is coming elsewhere.

The_Bouncer, did you make it to France ok?
Thank you. Yes I did. I'm now in a hotel in Germany, thoroughly exhausted after two very long days at the wheel.

I'm glad you were able to cancel in time.

LapLap, how are things for you? Are you stuck in Spain?
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