Consolidated WN Hawai'i rumors thread (post-ATA)
Oct 25, 2018, 11:38 pm
#496
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https://beatofhawaii.com/southwest-h...jvHdLLYyiQhDsA
Yep, I knew it.
Hawaii only after a ton of CPs obtained in 2017 (Marriott Travel Packages, CA resident offer) expire in a couple months.
Haha
Yep, I knew it.
Hawaii only after a ton of CPs obtained in 2017 (Marriott Travel Packages, CA resident offer) expire in a couple months.
Haha
Oct 26, 2018, 3:06 am
#497
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Will the proving flights show up at https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a.../wn-swa/routes before they happen, or does that only show actual scheduled flights that one can purchase online?
Oct 26, 2018, 9:48 am
#498
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https://beatofhawaii.com/southwest-h...jvHdLLYyiQhDsA
Yep, I knew it.
Hawaii only after a ton of CPs obtained in 2017 (Marriott Travel Packages, CA resident offer) expire in a couple months.
Haha
Yep, I knew it.
Hawaii only after a ton of CPs obtained in 2017 (Marriott Travel Packages, CA resident offer) expire in a couple months.
Haha
4. Etops certification update. SWA has been working on this process for 12 months. Regulatory reviews of manuals is completed. Procedures are moving into demonstration phase, starting with “table top exercises,” then the validation flights. That followed by training. Once they get ETOPS, they are ready to go and will within days start sales. They expect to fly within no more than one month of obtaining certification.
Oct 26, 2018, 10:03 am
#499
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This kills me. What is there left to prove & test? The plane flies no differently over water then land. Its unlikely they are going to intentionally ditch one to make sure the life rafts deploy property. Train the pilots as to the point of no return mark and to ditch in the direction of the swells (and on top of one) and call it a day...
Oct 27, 2018, 12:30 am
#500
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Will the proving flights show up at https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a.../wn-swa/routes before they happen, or does that only show actual scheduled flights that one can purchase online?
Oct 27, 2018, 6:08 am
#501
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Oct 27, 2018, 6:44 am
#502
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According to sources, per federal regulations, Southwest cannot launch new flights to Hawaii until the airline has ratified contracts in place with all key worker groups.
Oct 27, 2018, 8:12 am
#503
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It’s not that they have to prove the plane flies ok over the water (it does, and the plane doesn’t care what it flies over). They have to go prove that everything they’ve calculated on paper works in the real plane. Not to mention the ETOPS fleet has a much lower tolerance for engine troubles and inflight shutdowns, even when not operating an ETOPS route.
Oct 29, 2018, 9:20 pm
#504
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Signage at the Maui airport!
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/south...ll-fly-hawaii/
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/south...ll-fly-hawaii/
Oct 30, 2018, 4:39 am
#505
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I still think that the lack of a resolution with the mechanics will delay starting service to Hawaii.
Oct 30, 2018, 3:14 pm
#506
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Signage at the Maui airport!
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/south...ll-fly-hawaii/
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/south...ll-fly-hawaii/
OMG OMG cant wait!
Nov 17, 2018, 1:57 pm
#507
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Recent update on Beat of Hawaii states that flights are delayed until at least February due to a delay in ETOPs approval. Interesting tidbits though are that Hilo (ITO) service is being considered and LAX flights may start earlier than expected (summer 2019?).
https://beatofhawaii.com/southwest-h...irline-update/
https://beatofhawaii.com/southwest-h...irline-update/
Nov 17, 2018, 4:56 pm
#508
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FAA sign-off on ETOPS certificate (required for Hawaii) has been delayed for up to 90 days.
Dec 14, 2018, 4:38 pm
#509
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A few more tidbits about Hawaii service. Interview with GK this week:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-ready-to-roll
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-ready-to-roll
Dec 14, 2018, 5:08 pm
#510
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"We are pleased with the progress made thus far to obtain authorization from the FAA for Extended Operations (ETOPS) to operate between the mainland and the Hawaiian Islands later this year."