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lewisc Mar 11, 2025 7:12 am

SW Basic Fare
 
as per email Wana Getaway fares are now called basic NO CHANGES
NO REFUNDS
NO CREDITS
Assumed no fare adjustments

dlaue Mar 11, 2025 7:19 am

If it's $29 or $39 intra-California, it might work. Otherwise, we need some competition in the nonstop CA market.

dc2 Mar 11, 2025 7:33 am


Originally Posted by lewisc (Post 36950389)
as per email Wana Getaway fares are now called basic NO CHANGES
NO REFUNDS
NO CREDITS
Assumed no fare adjustments

I think you can still get a flight credit (that expires in 6 months).

"1Basic Fare
Basic fares are nonrefundable and non-changeable except as allowed by our 24-hour cancellation policy. Customers may be eligible for a flight credit if canceled at least 10 minutes prior to the flight's original departure time."

lewisc Mar 11, 2025 7:43 am


Originally Posted by dc2 (Post 36950445)
I think you can still get a flight credit (that expires in 6 months).

"1Basic Fare
Basic fares are nonrefundable and non-changeable except as allowed by our 24-hour cancellation policy. Customers may be eligible for a flight credit if canceled at least 10 minutes prior to the flight's original departure time."

I missed the footnote.

dmbolp Mar 11, 2025 7:46 am

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BASIC replaces WGA

Lyrrad Mar 11, 2025 8:13 am

Here's the official Help Center article on the changes: https://support.southwest.com/helpce...policy-changes

I guess I'll personally be OK since I have their credit card, rarely check two bags, and expect to hit A-List before my promotional status expires in a few months.

If that wasn't the case, I would seriously consider other carriers since they often have better schedules and similar prices before the checked bag fee.

xliioper Mar 11, 2025 8:19 am

But if you can cancel for a flight credit, for all practical purposes they would still appear to be changeable with a fare difference. Assuming there are no fees involved with attempting to use flight credit. DL has similar weirdo language for their BE fares. They say they are "non-changeable", but you cancel for e-Credit minus $99 fee ($199 international). So they would actually technically still be changeable, but with a fee applied to change.

Troopers Mar 11, 2025 8:20 am

Wow, no changes even for AL and AL+

xliioper Mar 11, 2025 8:46 am


Originally Posted by Troopers (Post 36950573)
Wow, no changes even for AL and AL+

See my post above. The "no changes" statement is actually a bit of a fib meant as further discouragement from buying these. Since you can cancel for full ecredit apparently, you can still effectively make changes to a Basic fare for the fare difference. DL makes same fib in their BE marketing, but has a $99 fee. The DL BE fare rules actually directly contradicts their marketing language of BE fares being "non-changeable".

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...56d4bc86ab.png

Troopers Mar 11, 2025 8:56 am


Originally Posted by xliioper (Post 36950638)
See my post above. The "no changes" statement is actually a bit of a fib meant as further discouragement from buying these. Since you can cancel for full ecredit apparently, you can still effectively make changes to a Basic fare for the fare difference. DL makes same fib in their BE marketing, but has a $99 fee. The DL BE fare rules actually directly contradicts their marketing language of BE fares being "non-changeable".

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...56d4bc86ab.png

I meant SDC.

Lyrrad Mar 11, 2025 9:14 am


Originally Posted by Troopers (Post 36950668)
I meant SDC.

Why wouldn’t you be able to use SDC on a Basic fare with A-List? It was previously announced as still being a benefit after assigned seating so I don’t think today’s announcement changes that assumption.

uastarflyer Mar 11, 2025 9:17 am


Originally Posted by Troopers (Post 36950573)
Wow, no changes even for AL and AL+

That matches UA. On UA a Basic can be changed with a $50 conversion to regular economy ticket. Even for status holding customers.

Nothing WN is doing is innovative. They are just sampling from the various other airlines.

xliioper Mar 11, 2025 9:26 am


Originally Posted by Lyrrad (Post 36950724)
Why wouldn’t you be able to use SDC on a Basic fare with A-List? It was previously announced as still being a benefit after assigned seating so I don’t think today’s announcement changes that assumption.

Because there are no exceptions listed for A-List members for No SDC rule on Basic fares. There is for Priority and Express Lanes, but not for SDC. Yes, they can currently do it on WGA fares, but Basic fares are not WGA fares.

Cledaybuck Mar 11, 2025 9:28 am


Originally Posted by xliioper (Post 36950570)
But if you can cancel for a flight credit, for all practical purposes they would still appear to be changeable with a fare difference. Assuming there are no fees involved with attempting to use flight credit. DL has similar weirdo language for their BE fares. They say they are "non-changeable", but you cancel for e-Credit minus $99 fee ($199 international). So they would actually technically still be changeable, but with a fee applied to change.

You lose something like EBCI and (probably) seat assignment fee with a cancellation that you wouldn't with a change though.

dmbolp Mar 11, 2025 10:00 am


Originally Posted by xliioper (Post 36950757)
Because there are no exceptions listed for A-List members for No SDC rule on Basic fares. There is for Priority and Express Lanes, but not for SDC. Yes, they can currently do it on WGA fares, but Basic fares are not WGA fares.

Ah, and this was probably a driver to come up with a new name, instead of just downgrading WGA to what is now called BASIC. Gives them a chance to downgrade AL/P benefits as well, without having to re-script WGA language.


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