White mom sues Southwest for ‘blatant racism’...
Aug 7, 23, 5:54 pm
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White mom sues Southwest for ‘blatant racism’...
Here's the entire article title: "White mom sues Southwest for ‘blatant racism’ after being accused of trafficking black daughter on way to funeral". This isn't exactly a TSA issues, other than training airline employees to root out human trafficking. I can't do anything other than hang my head in my hands because there is no politician out there who desires to fix this atrocity. The USG will never pay, but I want this young girl to be able to attend any university she wants scot-free after the airline and cops pay up.
Aug 7, 23, 7:41 pm
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I hope the airline is forced to pay out a lot of money but I think it should go further.
Anybody who mistakenly have people detained whether it be passengers or flight crew should be personally liable. The risk of being dragged into court and potentially losing everything they own will make airline employees think twice before they have someone inconvenienced and humiliated.
Anybody who mistakenly have people detained whether it be passengers or flight crew should be personally liable. The risk of being dragged into court and potentially losing everything they own will make airline employees think twice before they have someone inconvenienced and humiliated.
Aug 7, 23, 8:05 pm
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Easy to see how "if you see something, say something" gets out of hand.
A 14-year-old smuggling victim left an "I need help" note in the lav and an Alaska FA turned in a male pax. No comparison. He was well-dressed, she was disheveled.
I suspect the mother suing SWA won't 'settle' with a gag order.
A 14-year-old smuggling victim left an "I need help" note in the lav and an Alaska FA turned in a male pax. No comparison. He was well-dressed, she was disheveled.
I suspect the mother suing SWA won't 'settle' with a gag order.
Aug 7, 23, 8:06 pm
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I'd like to hear the other side of this story. Human trafficking is essentially fatal to its victims. Some false positives are the price of mitigating it. There should be ways to reduce false positives, but these methods need to be kept secret from the traffickers and therefore from the public.
Lawyers making a case like to pretend that perfection is attainable or at least the objective. It's not. If you aim for 100% accuracy you are most assuredly accepting a large type 1 or type 2 error rate.
Southwest could be completely in the wrong in this case. But if this case results in airlines letting more human traffickers escape detection that's a disservice to victims.
Lawyers making a case like to pretend that perfection is attainable or at least the objective. It's not. If you aim for 100% accuracy you are most assuredly accepting a large type 1 or type 2 error rate.
Southwest could be completely in the wrong in this case. But if this case results in airlines letting more human traffickers escape detection that's a disservice to victims.
Aug 7, 23, 8:36 pm
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The FA said that Ms. MacCarthy demanded she sit with her child and that she’d instructed her child not to speak to anyone. MacCarthy says that's not true.
The boilerplate "we-were-disheartened" apology to the mother becomes critical. As does the complaint from a man removed for questioning while traveling with his Black daughter; same year, same airline.
The boilerplate "we-were-disheartened" apology to the mother becomes critical. As does the complaint from a man removed for questioning while traveling with his Black daughter; same year, same airline.
Aug 8, 23, 12:20 am
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Here's the entire article title: "White mom sues Southwest for ‘blatant racism’ after being accused of trafficking black daughter on way to funeral". This isn't exactly a TSA issues, other than training airline employees to root out human trafficking. I can't do anything other than hang my head in my hands because there is no politician out there who desires to fix this atrocity. The USG will never pay, but I want this young girl to be able to attend any university she wants scot-free after the airline and cops pay up.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...alled-n1283333
saw this before
Aug 8, 23, 6:48 am
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This happened two years ago, but lawsuit now?
And if goes to trial, it will cause mental anguish for Mom and daughter.
If she wins, expect airlines to reduce efforts to reduce human trafficking.
If everyone thinks this makes sense, cool.
And if goes to trial, it will cause mental anguish for Mom and daughter.
If she wins, expect airlines to reduce efforts to reduce human trafficking.
If everyone thinks this makes sense, cool.
Aug 8, 23, 7:21 am
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Quote from their lawyer: "Just as the police are constitutionally not permitted to stop-and-frisk young men of color based upon their race, corporate America is similarly not permitted to resort to such profiling to use law enforcement to stop and question racially diverse families simply based upon their divergent races, which is what Southwest did."
Is there actually a law which says I or an employee can't report someone to the police for whatever reason (other than lying)? It's up to the police to decide what to do with that information.
Is there actually a law which says I or an employee can't report someone to the police for whatever reason (other than lying)? It's up to the police to decide what to do with that information.
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Aug 8, 23, 10:29 am
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Easy to see how "if you see something, say something" gets out of hand.
A 14-year-old smuggling victim left an "I need help" note in the lav and an Alaska FA turned in a male pax. No comparison. He was well-dressed, she was disheveled.
I suspect the mother suing SWA won't 'settle' with a gag order.
A 14-year-old smuggling victim left an "I need help" note in the lav and an Alaska FA turned in a male pax. No comparison. He was well-dressed, she was disheveled.
I suspect the mother suing SWA won't 'settle' with a gag order.
Aug 8, 23, 11:12 am
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There's video of the incident in the jetway on Good Morning America. The 10-year-old cries. Apparently asking others to move so they could sit together was the predicate. Obviously, that's in dispute.
The call to Denver PD will be interesting, if it was saved.
The call to Denver PD will be interesting, if it was saved.
Aug 8, 23, 3:44 pm
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I hope the airline is forced to pay out a lot of money but I think it should go further.
Anybody who mistakenly have people detained whether it be passengers or flight crew should be personally liable. The risk of being dragged into court and potentially losing everything they own will make airline employees think twice before they have someone inconvenienced and humiliated.
Anybody who mistakenly have people detained whether it be passengers or flight crew should be personally liable. The risk of being dragged into court and potentially losing everything they own will make airline employees think twice before they have someone inconvenienced and humiliated.
Aug 8, 23, 3:49 pm
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I hope the airline is forced to pay out a lot of money but I think it should go further.
Anybody who mistakenly have people detained whether it be passengers or flight crew should be personally liable. The risk of being dragged into court and potentially losing everything they own will make airline employees think twice before they have someone inconvenienced and humiliated.
Anybody who mistakenly have people detained whether it be passengers or flight crew should be personally liable. The risk of being dragged into court and potentially losing everything they own will make airline employees think twice before they have someone inconvenienced and humiliated.
Aug 8, 23, 4:00 pm
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Or, put another way, should people in positions of authority be able to harass multiracial families due to their own beliefs without reprecussions? Or should there be consequences to race-motivated abuses of power?
Aug 8, 23, 4:01 pm
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Quote from their lawyer: "Just as the police are constitutionally not permitted to stop-and-frisk young men of color based upon their race, corporate America is similarly not permitted to resort to such profiling to use law enforcement to stop and question racially diverse families simply based upon their divergent races, which is what Southwest did."
Is there actually a law which says I or an employee can't report someone to the police for whatever reason (other than lying)? It's up to the police to decide what to do with that information.
Is there actually a law which says I or an employee can't report someone to the police for whatever reason (other than lying)? It's up to the police to decide what to do with that information.
DOT Discrimination
There is one thing if you report suspicious behavior regardless of race, but reporting a passenger solely based on race is discriminatory. The exact details will pan out in the lawsuit, so who knows exactly what happened.
