Potential SWA pilot strike

Old Aug 1, 23, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by LegalTender
This the hottest pilot hiring market in history. Labor has a generational tailwind..

Congress imposed an agreement on the rail workers to avert a strike. I doubt the Fed will allow a shutdown.
Possibly, but we're only talking about one airline, not the entire industry. If rail workers stuck, the whole rail system would grind to a screeching halt. But if only one airline's pilots struck, well... remember how Southwest had a meltdown over the holiday week last year? And while it was a huge problem for WN customers, the rest of the air travel industry got on just fine without them? So, I don't think Congressional interference is a given in the WN labor dispute. At least not up front. Maybe if the pilots strike, Congress might step in after a few weeks, but there's no guarantee that they will step in at all.
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Old Aug 1, 23, 8:28 am
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There's no guarantee of intervention. A Southwest shutdown would need to “substantially interrupt interstate commerce to a degree such as to deprive any section of the country essential transportation service."

Convening a Presidential Emergency Board extends the obligation to maintain the status quo, a 60-day fix. Political currents are erratic.
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Old Aug 1, 23, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by medicmom
I have a vacation (booked on points) scheduled for October. Should I book a refundable backup flight on another airline? I only fly about once a year and this whole pilot strike thing has me super-anxious. I worry enough about hurricanes since I only travel during the fall, but this is just adding another layer of anxiety.
I did exactly that although not because I am super anxious. I have a work trip to FL leaving Oct. 11. Booked a DL flight on points out of my local airport and WN on points out of an airport 90 minutes away. They were fairly comparable costs when I booked them. Now WN has gone down by 40% and DL hasn't changed. Unless WN strikes I'll cancel the DL and fly WN. If WN strikes I get my points and EBCI back and fly the DL for a price I was ok with when I booked.
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Old Aug 3, 23, 2:29 pm
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Looks like the mediation board refused to release the pilots. Doesn't mean there won't be delays, pilots are a peeved. Management are going to shot themselves in the foot as younger pilots will start jumping to UA, DL and AA.
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Old Aug 3, 23, 5:06 pm
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Uh-oh! Here we go again! I dont think they go on the strikes. Gosh! Hope not!
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Old Aug 25, 23, 1:04 pm
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Any further news on the negotiations or the union's push to be released from mediation?
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Old Aug 25, 23, 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by EAJuggalo
Any further news on the negotiations or the union's push to be released from mediation?
Nothing major. LUV stock underperforming market, but no bleak omens.
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Old Sep 27, 23, 6:26 am
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Anyone see any news on this in the last month? It looks like my trip in two weeks is safe, of course I just booked another one for January that I might need to book a back up for.
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Old Oct 1, 23, 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by EAJuggalo
Anyone see any news on this in the last month? It looks like my trip in two weeks is safe, of course I just booked another one for January that I might need to book a back up for.
The last article I read says that the mediators expect an agreement by Nov 30.

I think it's unlikely that they'll be allowed to strike. The president has the authority to prevent a strike, and with the Nov 30 deadline coming only a week after Thanksgiving and the Christmas holiday season only weeks away, I think he'd step in to prevent it.

But even without a strike, if the union does a work-to-rule action, there could still be significant disruption to WN's schedule throughout the holiday season.

If they do strike, I can't imagine the strike lasting more than a week or two, but the fallout from the strike could last longer. The holiday meltdown last year was precipitated by a weather incident, which all the other carriers recovered from in two or three days, but which WN took eight or nine days to recover from. I imagine that a two-week strike could have scheduling repercussions lasting as much as a month, which would put it into the holiday season. And of course, if a strike lasted more than that, who knows how badly the airline could be hurt?

I think your trip in January is probably safe. If I had one scheduled for January, I wouldn't bother booking a backup. But it's certainly something to keep watch on as time passes. If a strike or work to rule actions comes on Nov 30, you'll still have plenty of time to re-book your January flight on another carrier.
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Old Oct 1, 23, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by EAJuggalo
Anyone see any news on this in the last month? It looks like my trip in two weeks is safe, of course I just booked another one for January that I might need to book a back up for.
My son newer pilot at SW, He told me that they will have an agreement. SWA knows they can't afford a strike.
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Old Oct 2, 23, 12:16 pm
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Wouldn't be surprised to see an agreement by year's end. Negotiation fatigue.

Pilot forum chatter is now co-terminals and shortening drive times to start their duty days..

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