@SWAVictor (et al.)- how many A-List Preferred are (approximately) out there?
Nov 17, 22, 2:06 pm
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@SWAVictor (et al.)- how many A-List Preferred are (approximately) out there?
I can imagine if this information is either considered business confidential or held close to the vest in any case, but could we get even estimates of how many:
- RR members
- A-Listers
- A-List-Preferreds
there are (or at least the latter two as percentages of the RR total)? I'll admit my curiosity is 90% selfish, as I'm just curious to know how (approximately, of course) big the pool of other AL+ there are (esp. in the affluent/business-heavy intra-CA market) I'm competing against for SDCs, Standbys (not that much a thing anymore) and even the WiFi .
- RR members
- A-Listers
- A-List-Preferreds
there are (or at least the latter two as percentages of the RR total)? I'll admit my curiosity is 90% selfish, as I'm just curious to know how (approximately, of course) big the pool of other AL+ there are (esp. in the affluent/business-heavy intra-CA market) I'm competing against for SDCs, Standbys (not that much a thing anymore) and even the WiFi .
Nov 17, 22, 3:41 pm
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See the classic example at:
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-l...d-open/2859825
(sorry you have to wait for the ad, but it's 2022).
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-l...d-open/2859825
(sorry you have to wait for the ad, but it's 2022).
Nov 17, 22, 3:55 pm
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See the classic example at: https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-l...d-open/2859825
So I assume no other carrier publishes elite numbers either? (Something tells me that if there were a category where any airline was leading, they'd never stop talking about it though
)
Nov 17, 22, 9:06 pm
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David
Nov 18, 22, 11:25 am
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I can imagine if this information is either considered business confidential or held close to the vest in any case, but could we get even estimates of how many:
- RR members
- A-Listers
- A-List-Preferreds
there are (or at least the latter two as percentages of the RR total)? I'll admit my curiosity is 90% selfish, as I'm just curious to know how (approximately, of course) big the pool of other AL+ there are (esp. in the affluent/business-heavy intra-CA market) I'm competing against for SDCs, Standbys (not that much a thing anymore) and even the WiFi .
- RR members
- A-Listers
- A-List-Preferreds
there are (or at least the latter two as percentages of the RR total)? I'll admit my curiosity is 90% selfish, as I'm just curious to know how (approximately, of course) big the pool of other AL+ there are (esp. in the affluent/business-heavy intra-CA market) I'm competing against for SDCs, Standbys (not that much a thing anymore) and even the WiFi .
Nov 18, 22, 11:33 am
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With all loyalty programs, especially in the travel sector, the number of top-tier elites / HVCs (high-value customers) is a closely guarded secret. There would literally be no advantage to sharing the data, yet numerous drawbacks.
Nov 18, 22, 12:07 pm
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Even if the number was available... what would it mean?
With some 3000+ flights a day with 400,000+ passengers per day... what would those numbers mean?
With some 3000+ flights a day with 400,000+ passengers per day... what would those numbers mean?
Nov 18, 22, 2:13 pm
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It's all good, especially since I'm apparently more likely to wake up with Herb the Ghost of Travel Past at the foot of my bed before I got a real number anyway. And @NoStressHere, you're right- even if I'd had exact counts, there's nothing real I could do with the information (esp. for any given flight) but I mostly just wanted to know how special I am big the pool is, overall.
Nov 18, 22, 2:48 pm
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If you had asked for a percentage range of A-listers and preferreds per flight, you might have had a chance at an answer. The range is certainly very different for MCO than for DEN, so probably not useful.
Nov 18, 22, 2:52 pm
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Ah well, had to ask. Back to guessing games
Nov 18, 22, 3:57 pm
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Day of week and city pair will have lots of impact as well.
As A-list from Miami on weekend, we got A-19. As many here know, sometimes A-list folks slide all the way to B.
Go figure.
As A-list from Miami on weekend, we got A-19. As many here know, sometimes A-list folks slide all the way to B.
Go figure.
Nov 18, 22, 8:31 pm
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It's all good, especially since I'm apparently more likely to wake up with Herb the Ghost of Travel Past at the foot of my bed before I got a real number anyway. And @NoStressHere, you're right- even if I'd had exact counts, there's nothing real I could do with the information (esp. for any given flight) but I mostly just wanted to know how special I am big the pool is, overall.
And if I shared the number, my Coheart Corbitt would definitely keep me in check. And look at his kick. Its serious yall. A quick gif from our teaser video for this years HalloWN skit.
Thanks as always to all our Southwest Customers and Cohearts. Wishing you all a very wonderful Thanksgiving. I hope you all can cherish the time with your loved ones.
With LUV,
Mark
Scene from a Southwest HalloWN digital short
Nov 19, 22, 7:50 am
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It depends on the day on the week, your destination, and even the time of the day.
Just one example from my SNA experience. Mon -Thu first flight to SJC: 80+% have status. The moment the boarding starts, two dozens of A list folks who did not get A group boarding passes are lining up to board between A and B groups. Friday first flight: hardly any A1-15 or A+. With an A list you can get A 16-25 easily. Similar way on weekends.
Just one example from my SNA experience. Mon -Thu first flight to SJC: 80+% have status. The moment the boarding starts, two dozens of A list folks who did not get A group boarding passes are lining up to board between A and B groups. Friday first flight: hardly any A1-15 or A+. With an A list you can get A 16-25 easily. Similar way on weekends.
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Nov 25, 22, 12:39 am
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I can imagine if this information is either considered business confidential or held close to the vest in any case, but could we get even estimates of how many:
- RR members
- A-Listers
- A-List-Preferreds
there are (or at least the latter two as percentages of the RR total)? I'll admit my curiosity is 90% selfish, as I'm just curious to know how (approximately, of course) big the pool of other AL+ there are (esp. in the affluent/business-heavy intra-CA market) I'm competing against for SDCs, Standbys (not that much a thing anymore) and even the WiFi .
- RR members
- A-Listers
- A-List-Preferreds
there are (or at least the latter two as percentages of the RR total)? I'll admit my curiosity is 90% selfish, as I'm just curious to know how (approximately, of course) big the pool of other AL+ there are (esp. in the affluent/business-heavy intra-CA market) I'm competing against for SDCs, Standbys (not that much a thing anymore) and even the WiFi .
