seat saving
#16
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No need to assign seats. Ability to charge Early Bird numbers for extra revenue. Supposedly quicker boarding process, especially if they use a front and rear boarding.
#17
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I’m skeptical about the faster boarding process. But in any event if all of these advantages are real then why have other US airlines not moved to the WN system?
#18
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Yes that is my usual approach. The silly line-up boarding game on WN and the absence of a premium cabin, makes flying WN rarely attractive to me — especially since It is not really a LCC any more. But there are times when the schedule and/or the absence of change fees causes it to make sense.
Perhaps they don't like to be as profitable as WN? Probably should ask them.
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sone PAX prefer having FC and having assigned seats rather than say being stuck in a middle seat on a XC flight.
I actually understand the math behind this modeling of waiting in line. There is no optimal way.
southwest allows people to check their bags for free so most check the large bags so boarding is usually faster because peop,e aren’t stopping a line to lift and load bags. With other carriers charging check bags those PAX are now bringing bags so boarding actually takes longer because of the situation I said above, and they need to bring bags down to get loaded.
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No, that is not their policy. Their policy is that you can sit in any open seat. What you define as an open seat is up for interpretation. Some people think that saving seats means the seat isn't open, other believe unless there is a butt in it, the seat is open. WN does not, to the best of my knowledge, I'd be very interested if you find it somewhere, give what their definition is.
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WN has been using their system for years. Most people are just fine with it and it seems to work okay. We will never see a 'great' boarding process - just ones that seem to work pretty good. WN still has some of the quickest turns for planes for what that is worth.
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On other airlines you can avoid a middle seat by buying in advance, although for the cheapest fares that might mean months in advance or that you have to pay extra for a seat assignment.
On Southwest you can avoid a middle seat by checking in exactly 24 hours before the flight, although IROPS will cost you your boarding position.
Pick your poison.
On Southwest you can avoid a middle seat by checking in exactly 24 hours before the flight, although IROPS will cost you your boarding position.
Pick your poison.
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Besides, given that seats toward the front are generally more desirable, do you expect many passengers to voluntarily go toward the rear to board?
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Funny story. Flying Peoples Express through Newark 30 years+ ago. Time to board using stairs for front and back. I had wife and 2 little kids with me and quickly figured out there were too many people and yelled to family to sit down NOW. About 20-30 people had to get back off the plane since it was full.
#26
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Front and rear boarding is not going to happen - jetway cost would be prohibitive. And of course you would have to man that jetway as well.
Funny story. Flying Peoples Express through Newark 30 years+ ago. Time to board using stairs for front and back. I had wife and 2 little kids with me and quickly figured out there were too many people and yelled to family to sit down NOW. About 20-30 people had to get back off the plane since it was full.
Funny story. Flying Peoples Express through Newark 30 years+ ago. Time to board using stairs for front and back. I had wife and 2 little kids with me and quickly figured out there were too many people and yelled to family to sit down NOW. About 20-30 people had to get back off the plane since it was full.
#27
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Funny story. Flying People s Express through Newark 30 years+ ago. Time to board using stairs for front and back. I had wife and 2 little kids with me and quickly figured out there were too many people and yelled to family to sit down NOW. About 20-30 people had to get back off the plane since it was full.
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There must have been a changed that i missed, because now my family gets a similar boarding card/# as me.
Last edited by envgeo; Jan 7, 2022 at 4:33 pm
#30
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I would just say this is Southwest, not Delta, and there's open seating, which you'll hear/you heard the flight attendant say. Might offer that there's plenty of three seats together in the back as well. I'd then sit down and not move.
The equivalent on other airlines is people asking for E+/C+ seats so their families can sit together when they have one person up front and 1-3 others way in the back, possibly on Saver fares. I've been asked to swap seats in these scenarios and clearly stated that they could have also paid for the seats. One lady tried to guilt trip me and I reiterated my point firmly.
A lot of tension in these situations is actually made worse by people being passive/aggressive or just passive. The more assertive you are as the recipient of these requests the less likely there is to be any trouble.
The equivalent on other airlines is people asking for E+/C+ seats so their families can sit together when they have one person up front and 1-3 others way in the back, possibly on Saver fares. I've been asked to swap seats in these scenarios and clearly stated that they could have also paid for the seats. One lady tried to guilt trip me and I reiterated my point firmly.
A lot of tension in these situations is actually made worse by people being passive/aggressive or just passive. The more assertive you are as the recipient of these requests the less likely there is to be any trouble.