I absolutely refuse to fly WN any more due to the COS (lack) of policy.
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It's been my observation that the vast majority of Southwest passengers are NOT "canooldling" with their seat mates against their will on WN flights. It's because they, unlike you (based on your posts on this thread), to not try to choose seats in rows that they know, by experience, are favored by COS passengers. Yet when you fly WN, you insist on seating in these few rows that are favored by COS and then complain bitterly that a COS is seating next to you.
It appears to be a misery of your own making.
It appears to be a misery of your own making.
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I think the difference is that on other airlines you can mitigate the worst effects of America's processed food culture by buying up to F or otherwise trying to pick redeyes that are emptier than rush hour flying.
Meanwhile on southwest I can't really think of any strategy other than to head for the back where people don't like to sit. But even that might not be enough if its a full flight
Meanwhile on southwest I can't really think of any strategy other than to head for the back where people don't like to sit. But even that might not be enough if its a full flight
I don't want to head to the back, too many miracles in the sky these days and I don't have the patience for people who can't walk at a reasonable speed or can't manage their bags which can make it take 10 minutes from the back of a WN flight.
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So this situation is all my fault, all of my own making, yet WN has a very clear COS policy that is never enforced at the gate and never enforced on the aircraft except when somebody like me delays the flight. 100% my own misery and 0% Southwest's fault? That's the calculus?
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at the same time they can have two seats in line and if their knees hit the the seat in front they have to pay for extra leg room
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That entirely works for me. The seat should also have sides so if they have shoulders like linebackers they also need to buy the extra seat.
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Fwiw, I'd LOVE to be at the gate (along with every major news network and the Twitter mob) when they strap the first obese passenger into this glorious "box" Hell, they won't even use the baggage "box". I can't imagine making (overweight) Americans try to pile themselves into one. This whole thing just feeds (no pun intended) the lack of accountability in today's society. "Why should I be held accountable for the fact that my ... won't fit in an airplane seat because I eat Twinkies all day and don't exercise? Someone is violating my rights!!" I'm sure Gloria Allred would be nearby (undoubtedly, rode in on the same bus as the MSNBC crew).
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Extra seats for COS are free. You can pay in advance, and they will refund the money or you can ask at the airport. They will even oversell a flight to get an extra seat for a COS.
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I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, so I want to point out to the OP...
Buying BS and getting A1 still does not guarantee you will have your choice of seats. If the flight you are boarding is a continuation from a previous city, passengers stay on the plane and can move to new seats before boarding begins. A WN flight I was on last week had 18 "throughs" (passengers staying on the plane) and every exit row seat was occupied before I boarded the plane as the first passenger on that segment.
I don't do this myself, but I guess if you were going to [waste your money] on business select, you could check the flight number with google or a flight tracker to see if the same flight number has prior cities attached to it.
One thing about the exit row - a passenger requiring a seat belt extender is not qualified (per faa regulations) to sit in an exit row, so there is at least some limiter on how big a waist a pax can have and sit there.
Most of the WN flights I take I get the exit row. I have used the COS policy once or twice before (at my fattest), though I have been "Denied" at the gate on an emergency trip a request for a second seat (me, a 300+ pounder at the time with fresh facial lacerations and bruises from being assaulted and mugged and waking up in the ER... guess that GA didn't like my face). I go of the window and if the middle seat becomes occupied, I lean into the window. I don't generally spill over the sides and the armrests and seatbelt are no problem. However I can not use my try table if I am not in an exit row.
And FWIW, if I saw you at 6'5 walking toward the exit row and there were no other extra legroom seats available, I would most definitely offer my seat to you and find a new spot.
Buying BS and getting A1 still does not guarantee you will have your choice of seats. If the flight you are boarding is a continuation from a previous city, passengers stay on the plane and can move to new seats before boarding begins. A WN flight I was on last week had 18 "throughs" (passengers staying on the plane) and every exit row seat was occupied before I boarded the plane as the first passenger on that segment.
I don't do this myself, but I guess if you were going to [waste your money] on business select, you could check the flight number with google or a flight tracker to see if the same flight number has prior cities attached to it.
One thing about the exit row - a passenger requiring a seat belt extender is not qualified (per faa regulations) to sit in an exit row, so there is at least some limiter on how big a waist a pax can have and sit there.
Most of the WN flights I take I get the exit row. I have used the COS policy once or twice before (at my fattest), though I have been "Denied" at the gate on an emergency trip a request for a second seat (me, a 300+ pounder at the time with fresh facial lacerations and bruises from being assaulted and mugged and waking up in the ER... guess that GA didn't like my face). I go of the window and if the middle seat becomes occupied, I lean into the window. I don't generally spill over the sides and the armrests and seatbelt are no problem. However I can not use my try table if I am not in an exit row.
And FWIW, if I saw you at 6'5 walking toward the exit row and there were no other extra legroom seats available, I would most definitely offer my seat to you and find a new spot.
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I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, so I want to point out to the OP...
Buying BS and getting A1 still does not guarantee you will have your choice of seats. If the flight you are boarding is a continuation from a previous city, passengers stay on the plane and can move to new seats before boarding begins. A WN flight I was on last week had 18 "throughs" (passengers staying on the plane) and every exit row seat was occupied before I boarded the plane as the first passenger on that segment.
I don't do this myself, but I guess if you were going to [waste your money] on business select, you could check the flight number with google or a flight tracker to see if the same flight number has prior cities attached to it.
Buying BS and getting A1 still does not guarantee you will have your choice of seats. If the flight you are boarding is a continuation from a previous city, passengers stay on the plane and can move to new seats before boarding begins. A WN flight I was on last week had 18 "throughs" (passengers staying on the plane) and every exit row seat was occupied before I boarded the plane as the first passenger on that segment.
I don't do this myself, but I guess if you were going to [waste your money] on business select, you could check the flight number with google or a flight tracker to see if the same flight number has prior cities attached to it.
Thank you, seriously, for the sentiment. Nobody has ever offered that to me on 300+ WN segments before except FA's who try to talk me into an exit row seat sometimes (as if that's not where I'm going anyway). If somebody did that on an WN flight, it would really mean the world to me, seriously.