Extensions of Elite Status, CP, Travel funds, and option to convert funds to points
#76
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,813
You're following me. However I don't think it's that insane. From anecdotal reports I'd guess the average CP use is around 5-6 times a year and the actual cost to SWA is probably pretty low, since even with high load factors there are usually a few seats available on any flight. The incremental cost of carrying an additional passenger is pretty low. The only time SWA would actually lose money is when they could have sold that "free" seat to someone else.
#77
Join Date: Oct 2001
Programs: LTP, PP
Posts: 8,698
You're following me. However I don't think it's that insane. From anecdotal reports I'd guess the average CP use is around 5-6 times a year and the actual cost to SWA is probably pretty low, since even with high load factors there are usually a few seats available on any flight. The incremental cost of carrying an additional passenger is pretty low. The only time SWA would actually lose money is when they could have sold that "free" seat to someone else.
#78
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Nashville -Past DL Plat, FO, WN-CP, various hotel programs
Programs: DL-MM, AA, SW w/companion,HiltonDiamond, Hyatt PLat, IHF Plat, Miles and Points Seeker
Posts: 11,072
#79
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
You're following me. However I don't think it's that insane. From anecdotal reports I'd guess the average CP use is around 5-6 times a year and the actual cost to SWA is probably pretty low, since even with high load factors there are usually a few seats available on any flight. The incremental cost of carrying an additional passenger is pretty low. The only time SWA would actually lose money is when they could have sold that "free" seat to someone else.
#80
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Nashville -Past DL Plat, FO, WN-CP, various hotel programs
Programs: DL-MM, AA, SW w/companion,HiltonDiamond, Hyatt PLat, IHF Plat, Miles and Points Seeker
Posts: 11,072
But these are not normal times. Would be interesting to see how this all works out.
(We already have it through Dec 2021 - earned in Jan of this year.)
#81
#82
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 235
The flights I cancelled this week show a September 7, 2022 expiration date. All the other flights I cancelled earlier continue to show the original expiration date of December 7, 2021.
So, the extension is for 9 months.
And the extension only posts on flights cancelled recently.
So, the extension is for 9 months.
And the extension only posts on flights cancelled recently.
I'm a bit worried about some flights that I had purchased in October 2019. Right now, they're still showing an expiration date of October 1, 2020... and I suppose they fall outside of the window that qualifies for any extension at this time. The only reason I hadn't used these funds for anything yet was because of the novel coronavirus situation. I really hope they'll do something for me, because the extension to September 2022 is quite generous, but I feel stuck in between at the moment.
#83
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ORD, MDW or MKE
Programs: American and Southwest. Hilton and Marriott hotels primarily.
Posts: 6,459
So to recap, I used funds that did not qualify for an extension to purchase a ticket and then immediately cancelled. 1 day later those funds had the extension.
#84
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Nashville -Past DL Plat, FO, WN-CP, various hotel programs
Programs: DL-MM, AA, SW w/companion,HiltonDiamond, Hyatt PLat, IHF Plat, Miles and Points Seeker
Posts: 11,072
How did you get an expiration date of December 7, 2021?
I'm a bit worried about some flights that I had purchased in October 2019. Right now, they're still showing an expiration date of October 1, 2020... and I suppose they fall outside of the window that qualifies for any extension at this time. The only reason I hadn't used these funds for anything yet was because of the novel coronavirus situation. I really hope they'll do something for me, because the extension to September 2022 is quite generous, but I feel stuck in between at the moment.
I'm a bit worried about some flights that I had purchased in October 2019. Right now, they're still showing an expiration date of October 1, 2020... and I suppose they fall outside of the window that qualifies for any extension at this time. The only reason I hadn't used these funds for anything yet was because of the novel coronavirus situation. I really hope they'll do something for me, because the extension to September 2022 is quite generous, but I feel stuck in between at the moment.
#85
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ATL
Posts: 1,919
Several of my travel funds moved to 9/7/22 overnight, except for 2 of them. And in both cases, I had a second travel fund with the same confirmation #, like:
ABCDEF Expire 6/10/20 $34 (moved to 9/7/22 overnight)
ABCDEF Expire 6/10/20 $154 (didn't change overnight)
HIJKLM Expire 12/10/20 $198 (moved to 9/7/22 overnight)
HIJKLM Expire 12/10/20 $198 (didn't change overnight)
So I created/cancelled 2 flights next week using the confirmation #s . In each case the system also pulled up the "sister" travel fund with the already-extended date (of course, don't know why I didn't think that would happen). Was able to remove just the "sister" travel fund each time, and we'll see what my travel funds look like tomorrow.
ABCDEF Expire 6/10/20 $34 (moved to 9/7/22 overnight)
ABCDEF Expire 6/10/20 $154 (didn't change overnight)
HIJKLM Expire 12/10/20 $198 (moved to 9/7/22 overnight)
HIJKLM Expire 12/10/20 $198 (didn't change overnight)
So I created/cancelled 2 flights next week using the confirmation #s . In each case the system also pulled up the "sister" travel fund with the already-extended date (of course, don't know why I didn't think that would happen). Was able to remove just the "sister" travel fund each time, and we'll see what my travel funds look like tomorrow.
#86
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,330
Rolled up a bunch of small TTFs into large TTFs yesterday (both inside and outside the window). This morning the new TTFs are all showing 9/7/22 expirations.
It looks like there might be a batch job that runs overnight to reset the dates for newly created TTFs.
Thanks Southwest!
It looks like there might be a batch job that runs overnight to reset the dates for newly created TTFs.
Thanks Southwest!
#87
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: LAX/SMF/PDX/HNL
Programs: Hilton-lifetime diamond, Southwest A+, companion pass
Posts: 1,748
Rolled up a bunch of small TTFs into large TTFs yesterday (both inside and outside the window). This morning the new TTFs are all showing 9/7/22 expirations.
It looks like there might be a batch job that runs overnight to reset the dates for newly created TTFs.
Thanks Southwest!
It looks like there might be a batch job that runs overnight to reset the dates for newly created TTFs.
Thanks Southwest!
Sounds like a perfect stay-at-home activity!
Did you find any city pairs and/or dates with one way fares less than $45? I know that $45 fares are readily LAX - SJC.
Last edited by dlaue; Apr 19, 2020 at 11:08 am
#88
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: LAX/SMF/PDX/HNL
Programs: Hilton-lifetime diamond, Southwest A+, companion pass
Posts: 1,748
How did you get an expiration date of December 7, 2021?
I'm a bit worried about some flights that I had purchased in October 2019. Right now, they're still showing an expiration date of October 1, 2020... and I suppose they fall outside of the window that qualifies for any extension at this time. The only reason I hadn't used these funds for anything yet was because of the novel coronavirus situation. I really hope they'll do something for me, because the extension to September 2022 is quite generous, but I feel stuck in between at the moment.
I'm a bit worried about some flights that I had purchased in October 2019. Right now, they're still showing an expiration date of October 1, 2020... and I suppose they fall outside of the window that qualifies for any extension at this time. The only reason I hadn't used these funds for anything yet was because of the novel coronavirus situation. I really hope they'll do something for me, because the extension to September 2022 is quite generous, but I feel stuck in between at the moment.
#89
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Maryland
Programs: Marriott Platinum, SPG Gold, DL Silver
Posts: 514
I would love some advice. My DH has over $700 in TF expiring late January 2021, from a trip that was booked for business then cancelled due to the virus early on. I highly doubt he or I will travel until next spring at the earliest (we have a high risk 21 year old son with multiple health issues, so cannot risk bringing any virus home). If I book using these funds a trip for him soon, then cancel, is it likely the funds will be extended to 2022? The wording from SW seems to be it has to be a TF generated during this spring, but these were generated January 27th. I’d hate to lose that money, and when we do fly again it’s 90% of the time with SWA. TIA! PS: I just checked and his funds still have expiration of January 27, 2021.
#90
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ATL
Posts: 1,919
Book a flight(s) between now and end of May, then immediately cancel, check your expiration dates tomorrow. Then you'll have travel funds generated during the APRIL/MAY timeframe; doesn't matter that the dummy flight was paid for with older travel funds.