New point requirements for status and CP in our future?
#1
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New point requirements for status and CP in our future?
Probably too soon, but I am wondering if anyone has heard anything about Southwest reducing the number of points needed for status, extending status and of course, the number needed for the CP, especially since they increased the requirement by almost 15%. Maybe even extending the expiration on TTFs?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Last edited by mile ho; Mar 18, 2020 at 6:42 pm
#2
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I would expect some promotions and/or extensions, or something.
Then again, if you read these boards, some think they will cut values of current points.
Who knows?
NOTE; They have already made if very easy to cancel/change existing reservation for March and April.
Then again, if you read these boards, some think they will cut values of current points.
Who knows?
NOTE; They have already made if very easy to cancel/change existing reservation for March and April.
#3
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It will be hard for me to maintain A-list if the current situation continues much longer. As a San Franciscan, I can't really even leave my house let alone take flight!
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Southwest is a more than reasonable company and I would be shocked if they don't do something quite drastic on this front. Most of their real flyers are going to be severely handicapped in making their status. CC earners won't have it nearly as bad, but those who are providing the revenue via flying are going to have a very hard time making it, especially since they decided to raise the CP number to 125k.
But I do have faith that Southwest will make it right on our behalf.
But I do have faith that Southwest will make it right on our behalf.
#7
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Southwest is a more than reasonable company and I would be shocked if they don't do something quite drastic on this front. Most of their real flyers are going to be severely handicapped in making their status. CC earners won't have it nearly as bad, but those who are providing the revenue via flying are going to have a very hard time making it, especially since they decided to raise the CP number to 125k.
But I do have faith that Southwest will make it right on our behalf.
But I do have faith that Southwest will make it right on our behalf.
#8
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Got an email from SWA today, here is a part of it:
A-List Preferred, A-List, and Companion Pass Qualification
I know many of our A-List Preferred, A-List, and Companion Pass Members–or those working to qualify for these benefits–have questions about how the current environment may impact their ability to qualify for status this year. While I don't have an answer for you today, we are closely monitoring this situation, and we will follow-up at the appropriate time on how we will address this situation.
Ryan Green
SVP & Chief Marketing Officer
A-List Preferred, A-List, and Companion Pass Qualification
I know many of our A-List Preferred, A-List, and Companion Pass Members–or those working to qualify for these benefits–have questions about how the current environment may impact their ability to qualify for status this year. While I don't have an answer for you today, we are closely monitoring this situation, and we will follow-up at the appropriate time on how we will address this situation.
Ryan Green
SVP & Chief Marketing Officer
#10
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Location: Chicagoland, IL, USA
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Southwest is a more than reasonable company and I would be shocked if they don't do something quite drastic on this front. Most of their real flyers are going to be severely handicapped in making their status. CC earners won't have it nearly as bad, but those who are providing the revenue via flying are going to have a very hard time making it, especially since they decided to raise the CP number to 125k.
But I do have faith that Southwest will make it right on our behalf.
But I do have faith that Southwest will make it right on our behalf.
That goodwill is why they will make it and certain other airlines I could name very well may not.
#11
Join Date: Mar 2011
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WN has always been reasonable and fair IMO. They have bent rules for me. They don't screw us for every nickel. On the occasions where they mess up (like changing the CP requirements on 1/1 that year), they are willing to reconsider and compromise.
That goodwill is why they will make it and certain other airlines I could name very well may not.
That goodwill is why they will make it and certain other airlines I could name very well may not.
But these are unprecedented times.
Right now it remains unclear if the blanket refusal to grant WGA refunds for flights they've cancelled is due to customer service confusion or instead reflects policy changes handed down from management. Hopefully we'll know more soon. It's entirely possible that the latter is true, and was instituted as an act of self-preservation. It may take much more than goodwill for them to "make it."
#12
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I would tend to agree with this. Southwest has always been more-customer friendly than other carriers, and even when odd circumstances happened, they were generally fixed in the customer's favor after contact with Customer Relations. Southwest even went as far as to reimburse customers for alternate travel costs after their notorious systems/operational meltdown in 2016, something I never thought they would do.
But these are unprecedented times.
Right now it remains unclear if the blanket refusal to grant WGA refunds for flights they've cancelled is due to customer service confusion or instead reflects policy changes handed down from management. Hopefully we'll know more soon. It's entirely possible that the latter is true, and was instituted as an act of self-preservation. It may take much more than goodwill for them to "make it."
But these are unprecedented times.
Right now it remains unclear if the blanket refusal to grant WGA refunds for flights they've cancelled is due to customer service confusion or instead reflects policy changes handed down from management. Hopefully we'll know more soon. It's entirely possible that the latter is true, and was instituted as an act of self-preservation. It may take much more than goodwill for them to "make it."
If they go under, all of them go under.
Last edited by toomanybooks; Mar 23, 2020 at 12:44 pm