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Broward country mayor wants to ban 737 MAX from FLL once it is certified to fly again.

This has to be among the stranger things I have seen in some time.

The Mayor has decided he is smarter than Boeing, FAA, Pilots Union, various countries, etc. He is also sending a letter demanding certain information from Boeing as well.

Another example of too much chlorine in the gene pool.

Here is a link: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...564943092.html

LOL let us know how that works out for him.

Worst years of my life were the two years I lived in Broward County.

Is he trying to make himself look like a hero that he's taking a "hard line stance" against this? Because he's making himself look like a fool.

Maybe he can get after the norovirus on the cruise ships that come into port there while he's at it.

Yea... he should ban those as well.

What a moron!


(pretty sure I have never used a word that bad on this forum)

It's worth noting that the "Mayor" is largely a ceremonial position in Broward County. It's a position voted on solely by the members of the Broward Commissioners. (The Commissioners are the people that are elected by the voters.)

I'm fairly certain the "Mayor" doesn't have the authority to make that decision on his own. He'd need the backing of other members of the Broward Commissioners. Hopefully, the majority of the Commissioners will recognize the fact that this action would be subject to lawsuits from the airlines (once the aircraft is officially re-certified).

By default and collectively, he may very well be smarter than Boeing and FFA. :rolleyes:

Thats great- bring more to PBI !

That's stupid idea! There is no banned 737-MAX in FLL. Airlines has it right to bring 737-MAX8/9 into FLL. He has no authority from FAA or Boeing.

Vote him out! Now!

Fixed that for you.

It's well established that state and local governments are generally prohibited from regulating aircraft operations in the US. There are some very limited exceptions, none of which would apply here. So he won't have much luck even if the city does pass anything!

Too much chlorine in the gene pool? Hahahahaha....

Actually there are far more fools....try "too much digital wireless radiation in the air" - no doubt will get blasted down by all the blind lovers...ignorance is bliss...until it isn't.

The only people in Florida who can ban the 737 MAX are potential passengers, if they truly ALL collectively refuse to fly it, since an airline cannot afford to fly empty airplanes for long.

But given that poor sales of plane seats would lead to steeply discounted prices for those seats, I can't see this doing anything more than lowering prices on 737 MAX flights, because there's too many people who I'm sure will reconsider "never flying the MAX again" if the price is low enough.

So in the end, the question is not whether anyone will "ban" it, but rather will it suffer so much attrition that it is not possible to command profitable fares for it.

The question is: Does Southwest identify the plane you're flying reliably when you book it, the way other airlines with assigned seats do? It's going to be more crazy if people don't realize they're flying a 737 MAX until they got to the airport. (At other airlines with assigned seats, if the type of plane changes and your seat assignment has to change, you get notified by the airline that plane changed because of that. But at Southwest, where it's open seating, do they notify you if your plane type changes between booking and flying?)

Not currently.

That is NOT what the article said. Did you even read it? Why is it great news to rush a dangerous plane back into service.

Before making a further jerk of yourself, you might want to make yourself aware of the communications challenges OP (who has been around here far longer than you have) has overcome.

Um, before you make a further jerk of yourself you might want to read the article. If you do, you'll realize it will likely be quite a while before the MAX is back in service.

I don't care if the FAA certifies the plane, I won't be boarding one for as long as WN truthfully disclose the aircraft type. Nothing really new here.

And how does one do this? Are people supposed to scroll through the entire posting history of everyone we respond to just to get to know them better?

...what?

CNBC 27 Nov 2019: FAA tightens grip on Boeing with plan to individually review each new 737 Max jetliner

My trust in the FAA is lower than the Chinese authorities, who at least have a politically vested interest in finding anything bad about an American built plane.

I won't be boarding the 737max even if the FAA blesses it. I will make sure my fellow passengers at the gate know it was a last minute swap to a max. Good luck trying to rush this back into service FAA/WN/AA/UA without the blessing of the other more trustworthy non-US/Canadian regulators.

More seats for me. If I get 3 seats I can sleep all the way!

Unfortunately my short-haul flights rarely were allocated a MAX8 when it was flying.

So we trust the Chinese government more than the US or Canadian governments and grounding a plane for 9 months and counting is rushing it back into service? I would hate to see what taking their time would look like.

Speaking of Canadian regulators, it appears that they are on to something and have determined a most rational solution for ultimately returning this airplane to service: Canadian Official Calls for Removal of Key Software From 737 Max

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At least with MCAS gone, pax won't have to worry about HAL9000 turning the plane into a lawn dart. Pilots will, however, have to brush up on stall recovery techniques.

The FAA that took Boeing's word for it before two planes crashed and were asleep at the wheel? That FAA? You view this as "great news?"

Boeing 737 Max Was Plagued With Production Problems, Whistle-Blower Says

Holy crap!

Agree. More seats for me too. I did fly them a lot on both, WN & UA, my two go to airlines. I know they did not schedule them (ETOPS certify them) for Hawaii service, which is now showing a lot in my near future, but would be great to have them scheduled there.

FAA issues new rules for operations 737-MAX jets.

FAA issues new rules for the operation of 737 MAX jets ? Explore the sky above

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-tra...135744.article

FAA will not certify 737 Max in 2019: FAA chief

Would not be surprised at all to see the same message with 2020 substituted later next year.

If the FAA had been around in 1903 the Wright Brothers would have never gotten off the ground.
I've heard that in 1962 when making The Longest Day the producers constructed a number of Horsa gliders and intended to reenact the Pegasus Bridge assault. The aviation authorities refused to allow it the guliders to be used as the were deemed unairworthy. Eventually they were transported across the channel and used as props.

WSJ is reporting Boeing may announce as soon as tomorrow that that max production will be reduced or could even be halted. This will be giving them problems for years to come.

I said it month's ago - MAX is as good as dead. The only question is whether it will taint the remaining Boeing products and whether they can re-engineer and retool fast enough to get a new design from scratch. Alas the design and production cycle is pretty long... and hence the reason they made the ill-fated decision to go with the current design. Penny wise, pound foolish.

Months ago, I thought there was a remote chance that the very last A380 flight will fly years after the last 737 max. I assumed the FAA would figure out a way to strong arm the other global aviation authorities to go along with the plan. Right now there is a fair chance the A380 will live longer than the max.

I think there is 0 chance the Max doesn’t fly and become a large fleet.

Boing has to much clout for anything else to happen.

I wish the OP would change the title. I keep clicking on it thinking I would read something about the Max - instead it is about a looney toon mayor.