Hawaii from east coast.
Oct 24, 2019, 10:42 am
#46
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Oct 24, 2019, 11:08 am
#47
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Odd this would be a bargaining chip, especially when HI had been planned for years. Planes have to fly overnight and have been doing for others for years. Why not prohibit operations in the rain, nobody likes that. Pay a shift differential and be done with it. This can't be the breaking factor not to fly a few red eyes!
Oct 24, 2019, 11:16 am
#48
Join Date: May 2002
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I rather appreciate WN's Hawaii-mainland schedule of daytime flights. It would suck to fly on red-eyes like the other carriers operate just to accommodate east coast connections.
Oct 24, 2019, 3:04 pm
#51
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Or you can take the redeye nonstop:
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Oct 24, 2019, 6:01 pm
#52
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Oct 24, 2019, 6:18 pm
#53
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Odd this would be a bargaining chip, especially when HI had been planned for years. Planes have to fly overnight and have been doing for others for years. Why not prohibit operations in the rain, nobody likes that. Pay a shift differential and be done with it. This can't be the breaking factor not to fly a few red eyes!
Oct 24, 2019, 7:39 pm
#54
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Oct 25, 2019, 7:34 am
#55
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IDK, hence my disbelieve. I don't work there. Who in their right mind would ever bargain that away? And for what trade-off? I want a union protected job in aviation where 24 hour duty is the norm but you can't tell me when to work? Imagine i'm an 11 year old paper boy but won't deliver in the snow and rain? It might be true but am having a hard time believing it could not have been fixed by now.
Oct 25, 2019, 3:33 pm
#56
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IDK, hence my disbelieve. I don't work there. Who in their right mind would ever bargain that away? And for what trade-off? I want a union protected job in aviation where 24 hour duty is the norm but you can't tell me when to work? Imagine i'm an 11 year old paper boy but won't deliver in the snow and rain? It might be true but am having a hard time believing it could not have been fixed by now.
Oct 25, 2019, 3:47 pm
#57
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I'm not sure it couldn't be or hasn't been bargained away to some extent already. Some workers will probably be willing to work overnight, with appropriate compensation. I believe the Mechanics already work overnight.
Oct 25, 2019, 5:01 pm
#58
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But, the contracts are ratified by the union members and majority prevails. Sure, mechanics have already been working overnight. Flight crews and airport ground operations haven't and have voted down proposals in the past. Not to say it won't ever change.
Jan 1, 2020, 4:23 pm
#59
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I'm going to try to resurrect this thread instead of starting a new one. I am trying to look at flights to Hawaii again. From PHL and BWI. On Southwest site, I see travel bookable until August something, but I see that a lot of the monthly calendars to HI don't go past May or June. Will they be adding more flights soon?
Jan 2, 2020, 10:33 am
#60
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I'm going to try to resurrect this thread instead of starting a new one. I am trying to look at flights to Hawaii again. From PHL and BWI. On Southwest site, I see travel bookable until August something, but I see that a lot of the monthly calendars to HI don't go past May or June. Will they be adding more flights soon?