Why Rush to a Window Seat if You’re Just Going to Shut the Shade all Flight?
May 9, 2019, 2:35 pm
#16
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1st off, almost nobody wants the middle.
Some do not like aisle as they want to just rest or be in their own little world. No bathroom. No getting up, etc.
Then, they want to sleep, or rest/sleep against that wall.
Or watch tv.
Or just do not like the bright sun.
Or want to cool off.
Personally, I am bothered when on the aisle, or maybe even ACROSS the aisle and the direct sun is blinding me and they guy at the window is totally unaware how bad it is for others.
Sorry.
Some do not like aisle as they want to just rest or be in their own little world. No bathroom. No getting up, etc.
Then, they want to sleep, or rest/sleep against that wall.
Or watch tv.
Or just do not like the bright sun.
Or want to cool off.
Personally, I am bothered when on the aisle, or maybe even ACROSS the aisle and the direct sun is blinding me and they guy at the window is totally unaware how bad it is for others.
Sorry.
May 9, 2019, 3:50 pm
#17
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To keep it closed. I rarely sit at a window, and the first thing I normally do is close the window on the aisle I'm in (in the hope it stays closed), but if I'm tired or don't want the light I'll take the window so it stays closed.
(... and I put the people who look out the window at the first sign of turbulence in the same category as those who sit there in the back with me yet pop up the minute the "ding" goes off, so ....)
(... and I put the people who look out the window at the first sign of turbulence in the same category as those who sit there in the back with me yet pop up the minute the "ding" goes off, so ....)
May 9, 2019, 3:54 pm
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May 9, 2019, 3:59 pm
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I dunno about exit rows as I'm never in one, but they don't seem to care in the back; if the flight is lightly loaded I'll close a few shades on the other side of the aisle too and they'll stay down for the duration of the flight
Eh ... unless you're Clark Kent, there's f-all you can do about it anyway ....
It's reassuring to see the last 2 minutes on approach.
May 9, 2019, 4:02 pm
#21
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Maybe if WN had rows reserved for people without overactive bladders or some nervous tick which requires that they hop up 6 times during a 90-minute flight. But, it doesn't.
It you want not to be disturbed by others, take a window. You can pretend you don't speak English, can't hear anyway, and stare at the closed shade.
It you want not to be disturbed by others, take a window. You can pretend you don't speak English, can't hear anyway, and stare at the closed shade.
May 9, 2019, 4:14 pm
#23
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If the airplane crash lands, gets hit by birdstrike on landing, has an otherwise issue like a fire, it's important to actually notice whats going on directly outside for things like evacuation or even informing the crew (they can't see it all themselves, and cockpit doesn't really get a 360 degree view either!) about it.
I've never flew an airline that didn't enforce window blinds up during taxi, takeoff and landing. And I guess if an airline wouldn't strictly enforcing it, I wouldn't feel safe flying it.
May 9, 2019, 6:38 pm
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With over 16 million flights a year.. having a crash is very, very low. And, then having an issue with a closed window is even less. And of course, most emergency situations have advance warning to open the shades....
No safe?
May 9, 2019, 7:46 pm
#25
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Most accidents occur during take-off or landing. Crews not able to see outside can't evaluate which doors to use and won't see hazards, debris or fires that may affect an evacuation. We're talking two minutes at each end.
May 9, 2019, 9:16 pm
#26
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Though I would agree it would be a positive safety issue in a crash.... saying it was unsafe to fly is a stretch.
With over 16 million flights a year.. having a crash is very, very low. And, then having an issue with a closed window is even less. And of course, most emergency situations have advance warning to open the shades....
No safe?
With over 16 million flights a year.. having a crash is very, very low. And, then having an issue with a closed window is even less. And of course, most emergency situations have advance warning to open the shades....
No safe?
And unfortunately quite some situations DID EXIST in the past where there was no advance warning. Strong sidewind turning the bird into a ditch? Brakes not working properly and the aircraft overshooting the landing strip?
It's not a MAJOR issue, but it's definitely something that increases safety.
May 9, 2019, 10:00 pm
#28
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When I get stuck in a window seat the first thing I do is close the shade. Its really annoying when someone leaves the window shade open when the rest of the passengers are trying to watch the IFE. I will open it for the last couple minutes prior to landing. I will leave it up for night flights.
May 10, 2019, 2:31 am
#29
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Never ending debate. I cannot even decide myself. On some flights I am bothered the shades are open, but on other flights bothered the shades are shut. Go figure.
Window blinds are the ”sweet spot” of service enhancements. U cant fix that and U need always something to be annoyed about
it is so sweet
Window blinds are the ”sweet spot” of service enhancements. U cant fix that and U need always something to be annoyed about
it is so sweet
May 10, 2019, 5:06 am
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OP Here...
i get it if you’re trying to sleep or if there’s glare (or lighting) but 90% of the time, that’s not the case. I see a lot, people quickly hopping in the window seat and immediately shutting the shade while the plane is loading (and I sit in the exit row 90% of the time). And it stays like that all flight.
Most of the time there’s no sleeping, no sun glare, or nothing spooky outside. They just shut it to shut it. I say, if you’re going to do that, sit in an aisle.
I like aitting in the aiale and having rhe shade open, unless bright. Haha. I like it both ways.
i get it if you’re trying to sleep or if there’s glare (or lighting) but 90% of the time, that’s not the case. I see a lot, people quickly hopping in the window seat and immediately shutting the shade while the plane is loading (and I sit in the exit row 90% of the time). And it stays like that all flight.
Most of the time there’s no sleeping, no sun glare, or nothing spooky outside. They just shut it to shut it. I say, if you’re going to do that, sit in an aisle.
I like aitting in the aiale and having rhe shade open, unless bright. Haha. I like it both ways.