Free changes now! (was: Southwest refusing to accommodate people who afraid of MAX8)
Mar 11, 2019, 9:00 pm
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The safety of 7M8 is beyond the bigger problem, which the bigger problem is to ensure this does not happen again.
FAA has 2 major responsibilities - safety and promote aviation. While I won't say FAA has been paid off by the airlines, indeed FAA has a conflict of interest in its policy making.
In the case of 787, FAA grounded 787s rapidly despite no fatality. So when 346 passengers were killed, FAA should ground the 7M8 in light of safety (side note - IMHO, grounding the 7M8 actually helps to Boeing to recover from all the bad press, regardless the crashes were related to Boeing or not).
So when anyone (including FAA and airlines) brainwash the public that 7M8s are safe, I would say they are liar even the cause of the crashes still remain unknown.
FAA has 2 major responsibilities - safety and promote aviation. While I won't say FAA has been paid off by the airlines, indeed FAA has a conflict of interest in its policy making.
In the case of 787, FAA grounded 787s rapidly despite no fatality. So when 346 passengers were killed, FAA should ground the 7M8 in light of safety (side note - IMHO, grounding the 7M8 actually helps to Boeing to recover from all the bad press, regardless the crashes were related to Boeing or not).
So when anyone (including FAA and airlines) brainwash the public that 7M8s are safe, I would say they are liar even the cause of the crashes still remain unknown.
Mar 11, 2019, 9:42 pm
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Mar 11, 2019, 10:02 pm
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Wasn't promotion of the industry removed from their mandate after the ValuJet crash?
Didn't Japan do it first and then the FAA followed them?
Didn't Japan do it first and then the FAA followed them?
Mar 11, 2019, 10:09 pm
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Yes. But at that time, Japan is the country with the most 787s. I believe now China is the country has the most 7M8 or 737 MAX.
Mar 11, 2019, 11:14 pm
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WN has 34 MAX in its fleet, so you are wrong too haha.
Mar 11, 2019, 11:52 pm
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Singapore grounded all 737 MAX
Singapore authorities grounded all 737 Max, this mostly affects SilkAir. Lion Air and Garuda grounded their 737 Max fleet, too (11 / 1 planes).
Edit: not just grounded, they banned all 737 Max (all variants) from SG airspace.
Edit: not just grounded, they banned all 737 Max (all variants) from SG airspace.
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Mar 12, 2019, 4:57 am
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Mar 12, 2019, 5:23 am
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Well, Boeing and the FAA for starters say it is.
Boeing to upgrade software in 737 MAX 8 fleet in 'weeks'
Boeing to upgrade software in 737 MAX 8 fleet in 'weeks'
Boeing Co confirmed late on Monday it will deploy a software upgrade to the 737 MAX 8, a few hours after the Federal Aviation Administration said it would mandate “design changes” in the aircraft by April.
Mar 12, 2019, 5:27 am
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Right. They don't care about the bad publicity and reputation that follows a plane crash, or the fact that they can be sued if they knowingly fly a risky plane that kills two pilots, flight attendants, and 150 passengers.
The "airline" is the shareholders, and I can guarantee you they do care if a crash happens.
The "airline" is the shareholders, and I can guarantee you they do care if a crash happens.
Mar 12, 2019, 6:18 am
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Don't planes constantly send data back to earth? And didn't the pilot communicate about a problem before the crash?
Limited as the information may be, it seems a bit ridiculous to dismiss every authority that's grounding this plane as doing so with "no" information at all. For all we know, the pilot specifically complained about the MCAS...
Limited as the information may be, it seems a bit ridiculous to dismiss every authority that's grounding this plane as doing so with "no" information at all. For all we know, the pilot specifically complained about the MCAS...
Mar 12, 2019, 6:45 am
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Don't planes constantly send data back to earth? And didn't the pilot communicate about a problem before the crash?
Limited as the information may be, it seems a bit ridiculous to dismiss every authority that's grounding this plane as doing so with "no" information at all. For all we know, the pilot specifically complained about the MCAS...
Limited as the information may be, it seems a bit ridiculous to dismiss every authority that's grounding this plane as doing so with "no" information at all. For all we know, the pilot specifically complained about the MCAS...
Some aircraft send data to earth in realtime (IIRC this was discussed extensively at the time the MH flight disappeared, with emphasis on a system that appeared to be focused on detecting when the aircraft needs maintenance), but some of it seems to be an added cost option at least on some aircraft types.
Mar 12, 2019, 6:45 am
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To topic, WN is in deep trouble now, with mechanics problems and now this. They are cancelling flight left and right. They really need to think about diversifying their fleet and settle with mechanics union asap.
Mar 12, 2019, 6:49 am
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An important part of WN's early business model was having a matched fleet in order to minimize training (including maintenance training) and parts inventory costs. This was very successful and gave WN a big advantage over legacy carriers. It was also beneficial for WN's operations to be able to substitute aircraft for each other, although without seat assignments, this aspect is relatively less important.