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Old Mar 11, 2019, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by lighthouse206
Also, I don't know if your doing this or not, but please don't denigrate the Chinese. Yes, I know lots of people out there are saying they made an essentially corrupt decision that had nothing to do with safety. However, the opposite could also be true: the FAA is making a corrupt decision by NOT grounding the planes in order to protect Boeing. Of course, nobody would argue the fine people in the Trump Administration are corrupt, or would sacrifice safety to satisfy America's largest exporter, now would they????

I would argue that your political response belongs in another forum altogether.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
That's what they said on CNN early this morning. Apparently the story has been corrected since then.
Sorry, every CNN replay refutes that. Even misspelled banners and fonts are screencapped and posted by media guard dogs. Nothing on HLN, CNN Business, CNN International, CNN Digital or CNN Newsource said that "USA carriers have grounded the MAX."
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by dfw88
Since when is Ethiopia in Asia?
ah you know, generic .... hole countries

Originally Posted by geo979
Southwest should do what is right. At minimum, until the MAX is cleared they should limit passengers on the MAX to those people with Emotional Support Animals.
my god, can you imagine?!

Originally Posted by Taco Tuesday
Isn't there more than one MAX? I thought the MAX-8 is the model that crashed twice. WN also flies the MAX-7, I think United flies the MAX-9. Does anybody know if there is a difference?
Originally Posted by Ditka


yes there is a difference. The Max 9 is longer and has a higher gross weight. And has a higher gross weight. so it has slightly different flight characteristics
You’d think that a longer version would be even more “unbalanced” (due to this alleged destabilising forward movement of the engines). The fact that it’s 8s not 9s crashing tends to reassure me that it’s actually not a fundamental design flaw at work (if that makes sense- but rather a sensor issue or a CRM issue).

People have short memories with air crashes and especially complaining about automation, considering that crashes like AF447 happened
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by jmw
Why should I pay difference in fare for a flight due to a mechanical? As far as I'm concerned, the 737max is broken. I'm perfectly willing to stand pat if they swap the aircraft with a proven bird. Maybe WN will have to bump passengers due to reduced seats or not have enough planes due to the labor dispute, but that's not my problem.
and you know the 737max is broken because???
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by mctrees02
and you know the 737max is broken because???
CNN, according to some.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by BearX220
I just heard from an industry source (pilot) that WN, AA, and UA have just voluntarily grounded their MAX fleets. Cannot confirm independently.
Now 6:30 ET and I have not seen any report of this.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by mctrees02
and you know the 737max is broken because???
You (and the FAA) can't prove it's safe either given what we know (two crashes within a short period of time and limited flight hours).
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 5:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jmw
You (and the FAA) can't prove it's safe either given what we know (two crashes within a short period of time and limited flight hours).
And you can't prove it's broken either given what we know...
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by jmw
You (and the FAA) can't prove it's safe either given what we know (two crashes within a short period of time and limited flight hours).
Also, if you do decide to cause a scene outside one of your 4 flights in the coming months. Could you let us know around what time you'll be doing so? I'm an aspiring viral video producer & would love to see the police reaction to your event!

Thanks,
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 5:46 pm
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I have seen 2 separate air safety specialists asked point blank if they would let their family fly this plane. Neither one hesitated before saying no, they would not board this aircraft at this time.

That is enough for me. I would pay to catch a different flight if I had to, but I would not get on this one right now.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 5:50 pm
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SWA President Tom Nealon:
"We'll be doing our [Hawaii] service with the dash 800 and ultimately the 737 Max 8.”
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by DCP2016
The FAA is paid off by Boeing, nothing will happen until one crashes here in the US by AA, UA, or WN.

If we were talking about the A320 NEO crashing, the FAA would have every single Airbus aircraft grounded.
Please cite source of payoffs, please.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 6:02 pm
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Does Delta operate any MAX aircraft?
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by lighthouse206
...the FAA is making a corrupt decision by NOT grounding the planes in order to protect Boeing..
I don't believe the FAA wants to protect anyone or any company that compromises passenger safety.

On the other hand, it might be time to buy some Boeing stock soon, because I know they'll end up back to where they were after collapsing today.
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Old Mar 11, 2019, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by mctrees02
and you know the 737max is broken because???
Well, TWO of the 737MAXes are kind of broken beyond repair. With 300 dead bodies also broken beyond repair.

I stand with Jim Hall on this one. Stop with the tombstone mentality of "let's wait until another one crashes, then maybe we'll do something about it." Abundance of caution should be embedded in the airline industry.
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