Free changes now! (was: Southwest refusing to accommodate people who afraid of MAX8)
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How can they come up with a solution to an incident that does not have an identifiable cause. Event happend yesterday.
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CNN was reporting this a couple hours ago: USA carriers have grounded the MAX, with WN having 31 such aircraft, AA 22, and UA 21 in their fleets. Maybe the grounding is effective tomorrow or perhaps they're being flown back to hubs or airports with suitable maintenance or even just lots of cheap parking space for aircraft.
WN has 35 7M8 in their existing fleet.
AA has 24 7M8 in their existing fleet.
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Folks will also mistaken 738s and 739s as Max.
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It's too early to say whether Ethiopian is the same, however Boeing should have released a software update to address the Lion Air crash by now.
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I have four flights in the next month on MAX. Southwest better let me change it or I will make sure everyone at the gate area know that the flight is 737MAX that's crashed twice in Asia. WN can't possibly let this go on. It's none of my concern that Boeing, Southwest, and the FAA look bad because the Chinese acted first. Whether the Chinese acted due to politics or genuine concern for passengers doesn't matter to me either. I don't want to fly on 737MAX anymore and I will not be charged extra for changing flights.
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Why should I pay difference in fare for a flight due to a mechanical? As far as I'm concerned, the 737max is broken. I'm perfectly willing to stand pat if they swap the aircraft with a proven bird. Maybe WN will have to bump passengers due to reduced seats or not have enough planes due to the labor dispute, but that's not my problem.
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The FAA is paid off by Boeing, nothing will happen until one crashes here in the US by AA, UA, or WN.
If we were talking about the A320 NEO crashing, the FAA would have every single Airbus aircraft grounded.
If we were talking about the A320 NEO crashing, the FAA would have every single Airbus aircraft grounded.
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The MAX is a new line or generation of the Boeing 737. There are currently 2 models in commercial service, the MAX 8 and MAX 9 (with the first MAX 7 I believe scheduled to be delivered later this year). WN only currently flies the MAX 8. It does not fly the MAX 7 yet, but has several ordered, which will likely be delivered later this year. (From a passenger perspective, the major difference is in passenger capacity - the MAX 7 has a couple fewer rows of seats than the MAX 8; the MAX 9 has a couple more).
The previous line was the 737 Next Gen, or 737 NG, and includes the 737-600/700/800/900. Of these, WN currently flies the 737-800 and 737-700.
The 737-800 and 737 MAX 8 are two different planes. However, WN has them configured to have the same number of seats, and sometimes swaps them for each other in IRROPS, mechanical delays, or other times when they need to swap out a plane.
The previous line was the 737 Next Gen, or 737 NG, and includes the 737-600/700/800/900. Of these, WN currently flies the 737-800 and 737-700.
The 737-800 and 737 MAX 8 are two different planes. However, WN has them configured to have the same number of seats, and sometimes swaps them for each other in IRROPS, mechanical delays, or other times when they need to swap out a plane.
Since WN doesn't assign seats, having aircraft types with different numbers of seats to swap with each other should be fine unless the sear numbers require an additional FA. Obviously they're going to avoid assign a new aircraft to a flight if doing so would cause an overbooking/oversale situation unless this cannot be avoided easily.
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CNN was reporting this a couple hours ago: USA carriers have grounded the MAX, with WN having 31 such aircraft, AA 22, and UA 21 in their fleets. Maybe the grounding is effective tomorrow or perhaps they're being flown back to hubs or airports with suitable maintenance or even just lots of cheap parking space for aircraft.
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Given people's impressions that it isn't an issue because these are "third-world nations" and they don't know anything about safety, I guess the solution is to only allow "first-world nations" to fly the 737max.
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