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Old Mar 4, 2019, 9:30 am
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Thought it would be fun to include the schedules for quick viewing here. Feel free to update as appropriate.

TO Hawaii:
WN808, OAK-HNL, 8:30AM-11:05AM
WN1456, OAK-HNL, 5:40PM-8:10PM
WN1474, OAK-OGG, 10:30AM-12:55PM
WN548, OAK-OGG, 5:40PM-7:55PM
WN734, OAK-KOA, 8:00AM-11:50AM (4x weekly, 1-3-5-7) (Begins 1/19/20)
WN2756, OAK-LIH, 8:10AM-12:00PM (3x weekly, -2-4-6-) (Begins 1/21/20)

WN538, SJC-HNL, 10:55AM-1:35PM
WN862, SJC-OGG, 12:40PM-3:05PM
WN4032, SJC-KOA, 7:55AM-11:50AM (3x weekly, -2-4-6-) (Begins 1/21/20)
WN2234, SJC-LIH, 8:00AM-12:00PM (4x weekly, 1-3-5-7) (Begins 1/19/20)

WN198, SMF-HNL, 9:45AM-1:50PM (Begins 11/10/19)
WN1297, SMF-OGG, 7:20AM-10:20AM (Begins 3/7/20)

WN2081, SAN-HNL, 3:40PM-6:45PM (Begins 4/20/20)
WN1295, SAN-OGG, 8:10AM-11:10AM (Begins 4/14/20)

FROM Hawaii:
WN1046, HNL-OAK, 9:30AM-5:45PM
WN1688, HNL-OAK, 3:30PM-11:50PM
WN4587, HNL-SJC, 12:40PM-8:55PM
WN199, HNL-SMF, 3:35PM-10:45PM (Begins 1/19/20)
WN2085, HNL-SAN, 9:35AM-6:15PM (Begins 4/20/20)

WN4452, OGG-OAK, 9:15AM-5:20PM
WN588, OGG-OAK, 4:50PM-12:50AM+1
WN1475, OGG-SJC, 2:40PM-10:30PM
WN1301, OGG-SMF, 3:10PM-11:15PM (Begins 3/7/20)
WN1296, OGG-SAN, 12:55PM-9:20PM (Begins 4/14/20)

WN735, KOA-OAK, 1:35PM-8:40PM (4x weekly, 1-3-5-7) (Begins 1/19/20)
WN4034, KOA-SJC, 1:35PM-8:40PM (3x weekly, -2-4-6-) (Begins 1/21/20)

WN2758, LIH-OAK, 1:45PM-9:00PM (3x weekly, -2-4-6-) (Begins 1/21/20)
WN2261, LIH-SJC, 1:45PM-9:00PM (4x weekly, 1-3-5-7) (Begins 1/19/20)


Interisland (Schedule Snapshot Date - 6/5/20):

WN2099, HNL-OGG, 7:05AM-7:50AM
WN1318, HNL-OGG, 9:00AM-9:50AM
WN1310, HNL-OGG, 11:20AM-12:10PM
WN266, HNL-OGG, 2:00PM-2:55PM
WN1306, HNL-OGG, 6:50PM-7:35PM
WN2089, HNL-OGG, 8:50PM-9:40PM
WN526, HNL-KOA, 7:40AM-8:35AM
WN410, HNL-KOA, 12:15PM-1:15PM
WN416, HNL-KOA, 4:10PM-5:05PM
WN1156, HNL-KOA, 7:00PM-7:55PM
WN1168, HNL-LIH, 9:30AM-10:20AM
WN1170, HNL-LIH, 12:55PM-1:45PM
WN1154, HNL-LIH, 3:30PM-4:25PM
WN163, HNL-LIH, 7:30PM-8:15PM
WN408, HNL-ITO, 8:00AM-9:05AM
WN1158, HNL-ITO, 12:35PM-1:40PM
WN1160, HNL-ITO, 5:00PM-6:00PM
WN150, HNL-ITO, 8:25PM-9:30PM

WN1317, OGG-HNL, 7:25AM-8:10AM
WN1319, OGG-HNL, 10:45AM-11:30AM
WN1311, OGG-HNL, 1:00PM-1:50PM
WN256, OGG-HNL, 5:00PM-5:40PM
WN976, OGG-HNL, 7:20PM-8:00PM
WN1307, OGG-HNL, 8:30PM-9:10PM
WN267, OGG-KOA, 2:10PM-2:50PM

WN249, KOA-HNL, 7:00AM-7:50AM
WN1309, KOA-HNL, 9:25AM-10:20AM
WN411, KOA-HNL, 2:00PM-2:55PM
WN417, KOA-HNL, 5:50PM-6:40PM
WN1305, KOA-OGG, 3:35PM-4:15PM

WN1167, LIH-HNL, 8:00AM-8:40AM
WN1169, LIH-HNL, 11:10AM-11:50AM
WN255, LIH-HNL, 1:05PM-1:50PM
WN1155, LIH-HNL, 5:15PM-5:50PM

WN1251, ITO-HNL, 7:00AM-8:00AM
WN1092, ITO-HNL, 10:00AM-11:00AM
WN1159, ITO-HNL, 2:40PM-3:40PM
WN1161, ITO-HNL, 6:55PM-7:55PM
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by azj
This proves my point. When the intro fares are gone, Southwest isn't the cheaper option.
WGA aren't intro fares.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by tatterdema
I have never understood WN to work this way though. Usually the Wanna Getaway fare just goes up, not goes away. That is like comparing apples to oranges comparing the different fare classes to HA.
Then why are there flights with the WGA fare option sold out and the other two still available? Taking Hawaii out of the picture, I looked at LAX-SFO and there are lots of instances where this is the case. Revenue management is very dynamic and subject to supply/demand, so I think we're both probably correct at our observations. The bottom line however, is that when the cheap seats are sold out, the expensive options are what's left.

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WGA aren't intro fares.
WGA may not be an intro fare category, but it is indeed where the sales are at and where all the restrictions lie. The fare sale that Southwest just launched are introductory fares, as they've just introduced themselves to this market. We'll see what happens to pricing when these intro fares are over.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by LegalTender
Then why is HA stock down 10% today?
The market is crazy. People got caught unaware?
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:34 pm
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Does anyone understand the fee structure on points bookings? When pricing out from OAK or SJC to Hawaii, there was a $14.60 each way fee. However, when booking DAL-Hawaii with a California connection the fee was the standard $5.60. I did not see any explanation of the difference on the Southwest site. I am curious if others have more info on this. Thanks.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mek17
Does anyone understand the fee structure on points bookings? When pricing out from OAK or SJC to Hawaii, there was a $14.60 each way fee. However, when booking DAL-Hawaii with a California connection the fee was the standard $5.60. I did not see any explanation of the difference on the Southwest site. I am curious if others have more info on this. Thanks.
Dates? I am seeing the normal $5.60 on OAK-HNL flights.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by tatterdema
Dates? I am seeing the normal $5.60 on OAK-HNL flights.
9/29 - I actually booked SJC-HNL for 8 passengers on points (5800 each) and it was around $119 in fees. A few minutes later I found DAL-HNL availability on 9/30 and it was only $44 in fees for 8 passengers.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by azj
Then why are there flights with the WGA fare option sold out and the other two still available?
Anytime fares are what other airlines would consider Y class (refundable full fare economy) tickets. Everything else gets lumped into Wanna Get Away. So WGA fares will vary until they finally sell out. WGA fares can also show sold out if the advance purchase deadlines have already passed.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Troopers
I understand that locals tend to book "last-minute". The $29 WGA inter-island fares will be gone by then. The Anytime and BS fares are priced higher than HAL. Thus, I don't think WN will be capturing the local market.
There is no way to know this, or really even to guess accurately. No one knows what the WGA last minute fares will be until flights start and we see last minute WGA fares..... I would imagine there will be a LOT of pricing changes between now and then. I do think WN will be competetive, especially when you take the 2 free bags into consideration.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:52 pm
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Needed an island hopper HNL-OGG in July, HA wanted $99 + bag, the $49 WN with 2 free bags is perfect.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by mek17

9/29 - I actually booked SJC-HNL for 8 passengers on points (5800 each) and it was around $119 in fees. A few minutes later I found DAL-HNL availability on 9/30 and it was only $44 in fees for 8 passengers.
No idea, but I am showing $5.60 for that flight...??? $44.80 total for 8 people.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian717
Anytime fares are what other airlines would consider Y class (refundable full fare economy) tickets. Everything else gets lumped into Wanna Get Away. So WGA fares will vary until they finally sell out. WGA fares can also show sold out if the advance purchase deadlines have already passed.
I understand. The question you quoted me asking, was to another poster who suggested WGA fares never become unavailable, but just get more expensive. In the end, we're saying the same things. When the cheapest seats aren't available, for whatever reason, one will have to buy the higher fare. To my original point, when those lowest fares are no longer available on Southwest, they'll be more expensive than HAL. At the end of the day, HAL will offer more seats, therefore more cheap seats, therefore will often be the cheaper option. This is also why Hawaiian won't have to discount as many seats and appear at the moment, to not be matching Southwest's inter-island fares.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tatterdema
No idea, but I am showing $5.60 for that flight...??? $44.80 total for 8 people.
I just searched it again and see $5.60 for all relevant flights. Must have been a glitch. Strange, but glad to see it is not a new fee.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 12:59 pm
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Was charged $9.30 US Transportation Tax + $5.60 = $14.90 for each points one way reservation. OAK-HNL OW and HNL-OAK Ow
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by sggolf
Was charged $9.30 US Transportation Tax + $5.60 = $14.90 for each points one way reservation.
What city pairs? What date? I found this applied for SJC-HNL, but not DAL-HNL.
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Old Mar 4, 2019, 1:05 pm
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Soooo when will the direct flights out of san diego be released?
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