Southwest declares operations 'emergency' amid labor dispute with mechanics
#46
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I hope you email them for money. I would go for $300 LUV voucher on this.
If they have to keep giving money away, maybe they will actually settle this dispute.
If they have to keep giving money away, maybe they will actually settle this dispute.
#47
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ATL
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Will do, just wish I had taken a screenshot of FlightAware 12 hours ago. If Southwest would have been honest at that time I could have flown out of BWI or IAD hours ago and already home. Ive now got 4 more hours just at the airport
#53
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Just arrived MKE on the way to CLE from MCI SW 523 at 10:00am on time..
The second leg of the r flight has been delayed for 3 hours. We were told they need the aircraft we flew from MCI on for a Las Vegas flight. I have my doubts. Could be this labor slowdown. This messes up my plans big time.
The second leg of the r flight has been delayed for 3 hours. We were told they need the aircraft we flew from MCI on for a Las Vegas flight. I have my doubts. Could be this labor slowdown. This messes up my plans big time.
#54
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#55
Join Date: Oct 2018
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They flew a couple flights to off network MX VCV and PAE to recover. Pilots aren't thinking this is a labor action.
#56
Join Date: Oct 2015
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it is NOT a labor action.
This is not a job action. This is weather, and mechanical delays being blamed on the employees whose very jobs Mr. Kelly is trying to outsource. This is a management tactic to make the mechanics look bad, and get the public on the companys side. These mechanics are overworked, being denied overtime, and have the lowest ratio of mechanics per plane than any other airline in the industry-and Mr. Kelly wants to outsource even more of their jobs to South and Centeal America. LUV suing its own employees? Someone is ruining Herbs airline-and it aint the mechanics.
#57
Join Date: Aug 2007
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You know what will cause Kelly to make a deal?
A crash.
Pissed off mechanics, overworked mechanics, and intimidated mechanics overlook things and make mistakes. Yes the system has redundancy but you cant tell me the odds of an accident arent higher now than they would be absent this dispute.
Southwest right now reminds me of Alaska around the year 2000....
A crash.
Pissed off mechanics, overworked mechanics, and intimidated mechanics overlook things and make mistakes. Yes the system has redundancy but you cant tell me the odds of an accident arent higher now than they would be absent this dispute.
Southwest right now reminds me of Alaska around the year 2000....
#58
Join Date: Aug 2007
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This is not a job action. This is weather, and mechanical delays being blamed on the employees whose very jobs Mr. Kelly is trying to outsource. This is a management tactic to make the mechanics look bad, and get the public on the companys side. These mechanics are overworked, being denied overtime, and have the lowest ratio of mechanics per plane than any other airline in the industry-and Mr. Kelly wants to outsource even more of their jobs to South and Centeal America. LUV suing its own employees? Someone is ruining Herbs airline-and it aint the mechanics.
Its not just about money...
Herb mastered the relationship: trust, respect, and common purpose which leads to deals. Kelly clearly has lost all of this with his mechanics.
#59
Join Date: Oct 2010
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The belief that WN is "too big to fail", faithful will blindly remain loyal allow Kelly to act with impunity when dealing with labor. It will take a major, catastrophic event to force a significant change, carnage (figurative or literal) will be significant.
#60
Join Date: Oct 2015
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The airline industry has changed significantly since Herb started LUV. While I am no fan of Kelly or his tactics, LUV is now a $30 billion public company, his primary responsibility is to shareholders. I highly doubt Herb's approach would generate the returns demanded by today's institutional investors.
The belief that WN is "too big to fail", faithful will blindly remain loyal allow Kelly to act with impunity when dealing with labor. It will take a major, catastrophic event to force a significant change, carnage (figurative or literal) will be significant.
The belief that WN is "too big to fail", faithful will blindly remain loyal allow Kelly to act with impunity when dealing with labor. It will take a major, catastrophic event to force a significant change, carnage (figurative or literal) will be significant.
but the bigger question is how does Southwest Airlines go from a company whose employees purchased the companys fuel, to an airline that sues its own employees?