Southwest declares operations 'emergency' amid labor dispute with mechanics
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2. WN is no longer a low cost carrier, already has some of the highest labor costs of US carriers (https://www.planestats.com/aea9_2018mar is the most recent I was able to find online).
3. WN is under increased pressure from AS on routes it has owned for several years (intra-California and DAL, for example), is setting itself up for a bruising battle to win market share to Hawaii. Not only does AS have much lower cost per asm than WN (see above link), but much of the new service is operated by Skywest, on low cost, customer friendly E175 aircraft.
Combined with the growing FAA scrutiny, it is tough to see how this all ends well - particularly with a recession looming on the horizon.
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2. WN is no longer a low cost carrier, already has some of the highest labor costs of US carriers (https://www.planestats.com/aea9_2018mar is the most recent I was able to find online).
From Alaska's 2018 Investor Day Presentation.
How it ends is with lower profits for shareholders and better wages/benefits/work rules for WN mechanics.
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I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but apparently things are worse than we've known. VFTW has some insights provided by Kris Van Cleave from CBS News:
Gary's commentary aside, the sharp increase in delays seems to stem not from mechanics calling in sick, but instead being extremely ticky-tacky with every possible safety violation they can find. The two shocking revelations, IMO:
1. 60 planes short per day.
2. WN has data showing the increased delays track to 100 specific mechanics.
Bad things, man. Bad things.
Gary's commentary aside, the sharp increase in delays seems to stem not from mechanics calling in sick, but instead being extremely ticky-tacky with every possible safety violation they can find. The two shocking revelations, IMO:
1. 60 planes short per day.
2. WN has data showing the increased delays track to 100 specific mechanics.
Bad things, man. Bad things.
#35
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The unions are playing games and WN is filing lawsuits for illegal labor practices. While the Union may claim "safety and doing their job per FAA regulations"...I can tell you as both a pilot and aircraft owner myself it is a very subjective area and if you look hard enough you can find something on almost any aircraft to make a claim for grounding vs getting it resolved ASAP. Not all maintenance issues affect the airworthiness of an aircraft, but some are leveraging those write-ups to sabotage WN's operations as much as possible.
The games are sickening and I hope WN prevails.
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The unions are playing games and WN is filing lawsuits for illegal labor practices. While the Union may claim "safety and doing their job per FAA regulations"...I can tell you as both a pilot and aircraft owner myself it is a very subjective area and if you look hard enough you can find something on almost any aircraft to make a claim for grounding vs getting it resolved ASAP. Not all maintenance issues affect the airworthiness of an aircraft, but some are leveraging those write-ups to sabotage WN's operations as much as possible.
#37
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10+ years without a new contract, 6+ years in "negotiations", the lowest ratio of mechanics per plane of any major carrier, only 2,500 employees out of 50,000+, causing major disruption, loss of revenue and the threat to permanently further damage WNs reputation.
A reversal of Herb's "employees first" philosophy.
Sorry, management is completely mishandling the situation.
A reversal of Herb's "employees first" philosophy.
Sorry, management is completely mishandling the situation.
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200 flights cancelled today. Flying 95% may be the new normal.
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My flight tonight was held before boarding to “fix a light in the cabin.” Brings back memories of AA during a labor dispute — they would board the plane, shut the door, then announce that the capitan was “checking the weight and balance calculations .” 15 minutes later we would pushback and depart late.