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Old Feb 22, 2019, 3:54 pm
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Thanks for sharing. Would you be able to post the txt from the entire article as it's behind a paywall?
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Old Feb 22, 2019, 4:25 pm
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Thanks for sharing. Would you be able to post the txt from the entire article as it's behind a paywall?
'Fair Use' is summarizing and quoting from a news report. Copying the entire piece is a stretch since it's paid material.

I'll let someone else do that - which I'm confident they will.
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Old Feb 22, 2019, 4:52 pm
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Old Feb 22, 2019, 5:11 pm
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Old Feb 22, 2019, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by LegalTender
'Fair Use' is summarizing and quoting from a news report. Copying the entire piece is a stretch since it's paid material.

I'll let someone else do that - which I'm confident they will.
Uloess the original publisher is unconscious and starts something such a law suit would involve a massive Streisand Effect.
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Old Feb 23, 2019, 7:45 am
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FT rules are such that it's not worth the effort. But you absolutely should.

"When posting a news article or other published information, credit the source of the information and give a brief, one-to-three paragraph summary or clip of the content, providing an appropriate link and/or cite to its source."
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Old Feb 23, 2019, 9:49 am
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February 22nd, 2019

Southwest flies through rough week with Hawaii in the wings

Delays, downgrades, union issues causing turbulence

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Old Feb 23, 2019, 9:57 am
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I anticipate GK will make nice with mechanics before Hawaii launch. Maybe next week.
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Old Feb 24, 2019, 11:07 pm
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Rumor has it.....

Hawaii flights to go on sale at 1500 CST tomorrow. Monday, February 25, 2019. (So 1300 PST / 1600 EST)
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Old Feb 25, 2019, 7:20 am
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Rumor has it.....

Hawaii flights to go on sale at 1500 CST tomorrow. Monday, February 25, 2019. (So 1300 PST / 1600 EST)
Source? Where do these rumors come from? Last time, people were banking on Valentine's Day. I am skeptical but will retract my skepticism if you prove to be right!
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Old Feb 25, 2019, 8:01 am
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I anticipate GK will make nice with mechanics before Hawaii launch. Maybe next week.
I imagine the Mechanics are licking their chops expecting major concessions.
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Old Feb 25, 2019, 8:37 am
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Source? Where do these rumors come from? Last time, people were banking on Valentine's Day. I am skeptical but will retract my skepticism if you prove to be right!
per airliners.net thread
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Old Feb 25, 2019, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by rsteinmetz70112
I imagine the Mechanics are licking their chops expecting major concessions.
What "major concessions" are you imagining? The airline has 50K unionized employees, so anything "major" will be a bargaining chip. "Generous" is shrewd. The corporate goal should be protecting its reputation and its business plans.
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Old Feb 25, 2019, 1:39 pm
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What "major concessions" are you imagining? The airline has 50K unionized employees, so anything "major" will be a bargaining chip. "Generous" is shrewd. The corporate goal should be protecting its reputation and its business plans.
I don't know what the contentious issues are so I can't say, but since the various employee groups are represented by different unions and have different priories what is 'Major" to one might not be to another. If business plans include protecting profits that may be in direct conflict with the Union;'s priorities. What is "generous" to one side may seem paltry to the other. Southwest's reputation seems pretty secure, unless there is a prolonged strike which seems unlikely, unless one side is so dug into it's position or so angry won't can't compromise.
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Old Feb 25, 2019, 2:08 pm
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So mechanics "licking their chops" over major concessions was an abstraction? I think there may be a connection between Hawaii launch and coming to some agreement. Southwest's reputation being in play is no abstraction. But yes, they can still do ETOPS without it.
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