No more SW for me...
Dec 18, 2018, 10:44 pm
#106
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 94
If my outbound flight is someone’s connecting flight then they are getting checked in with EB even earlier than my 36 hour time stamp. So there is that but with WNs business model it’s probably a high percentage of flights are connecting flights at some point.
There definitely is a benefit to the auto check in whether it’s with A List priority check in or EB. If you feel the need to analyze and weigh the benefits and factor in time zones and connecting flights and other data points then just don’t buy it and click at 24 hours.
Dec 19, 2018, 6:16 am
#107
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DAY
Programs: Rapid Rewards, Skymiles, Hilton HHonors, SPG/Marriott Rewards
Posts: 4,944
My apologies. Did you try calling to ask if they would seat you in one of the preferred seats?
1. I know plenty of people who choose not to reserve a seat in the back of the bus at time of booking, end up sitting in a preferred or economy plus seat at check-in.
2. When traveling alone, in a preferred seat, I have been asked by a gate agent to move (often an upgrade) to accommodate a party of 2 or more who either not issues seats at booking, missed a connection, etc.
3. When traveling alone, without status, my wife asks the agent nicely, typically is comped an economy plus seat (AA, AS).
1. I know plenty of people who choose not to reserve a seat in the back of the bus at time of booking, end up sitting in a preferred or economy plus seat at check-in.
2. When traveling alone, in a preferred seat, I have been asked by a gate agent to move (often an upgrade) to accommodate a party of 2 or more who either not issues seats at booking, missed a connection, etc.
3. When traveling alone, without status, my wife asks the agent nicely, typically is comped an economy plus seat (AA, AS).
Dec 19, 2018, 12:55 pm
#108
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
This makes no sense. If I have a connecting flight and buy EB I am checked in 36 hours before my outbound flight. My connecting flight is even later so it is to my benefit. Passengers on that flight as an outbound are not getting checked in yet
If my outbound flight is someone’s connecting flight then they are getting checked in with EB even earlier than my 36 hour time stamp. So there is that but with WNs business model it’s probably a high percentage of flights are connecting flights at some point.
There definitely is a benefit to the auto check in whether it’s with A List priority check in or EB. If you feel the need to analyze and weigh the benefits and factor in time zones and connecting flights and other data points then just don’t buy it and click at 24 hours.
EBCI works this way: At t-36 all passengers on that flight who have bought EBCI are ranked and assigned boarding positions. AT first, followed by everyone else according to the time stamp on the EBCI purchase.
It doesn't matter whether that particular flight is originating or connecting for any specific passenger. Each passenger is simply ranked among all other EBCI passengers on that particular flight.
It's pretty simple, really.
Dec 19, 2018, 1:41 pm
#109
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 94
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.
EBCI works this way: At t-36 all passengers on that flight who have bought EBCI are ranked and assigned boarding positions. AT first, followed by everyone else according to the time stamp on the EBCI purchase.
It doesn't matter whether that particular flight is originating or connecting for any specific passenger. Each passenger is simply ranked among all other EBCI passengers on that particular flight.
It's pretty simple, really.
EBCI works this way: At t-36 all passengers on that flight who have bought EBCI are ranked and assigned boarding positions. AT first, followed by everyone else according to the time stamp on the EBCI purchase.
It doesn't matter whether that particular flight is originating or connecting for any specific passenger. Each passenger is simply ranked among all other EBCI passengers on that particular flight.
It's pretty simple, really.
I have to wonder how often you fly WN as you always seems to parrot others thoughts and opinions. I was responding to your claim that EB has no benefit on a connecting flight. Clearly it can, as I explained. If you still don’t understand, I’m sorry that you’re confused.
Dec 19, 2018, 2:52 pm
#110
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
Actually, unlike t-24 checkin, there is no benefit with EBCI on a connecting flight
I have to wonder how often you fly WN as you always seems to parrot others thoughts and opinions. I was responding to your claim that EB has no benefit on a connecting flight. Clearly it can, as I explained. If you still don’t understand, I’m sorry that you’re confused.
I have to wonder how often you fly WN as you always seems to parrot others thoughts and opinions. I was responding to your claim that EB has no benefit on a connecting flight. Clearly it can, as I explained. If you still don’t understand, I’m sorry that you’re confused.
I've been accused of many things (usually of being anti-Southwest) but parroting other's opinions is a new one.FYI: I fly WN frequently, and have since the 90's. I had a partner who was an FA for 7 years, and have several friends who are employees now. I currently have a relationship with the company (the specifics of which I'm unable to disclose) that affords me access to information.
To be clear: The EBCI benefit one receives on a connecting flight is the same one receives on an originating flight. You are checked in at t-36, and assigned position based on rank within the passengers of that particular flight. As I just explained in the previous post.
Earlier in this thread, it was suggested that somehow EBCI purchasers received extra benefit on connecting flights -- similar to how passengers who check themselves in manually at t-24 do. (That they are automatically checked in earlier than t-36.)
You seemed to be arguing that point as well (forgive me if I'm wrong, as I said it was hard to understand exactly what you meant).
But that's not true.
EBCI purchasers receive no extra benefit on their connecting flights.
If you were simply stating that EBCI purchasers receive the regular EBCI benefit (t-36 check-in) then I apologize.
Hopefully this makes sense to you now.
Dec 21, 2018, 2:35 pm
#111
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK/STS
Programs: Alaska MVPG, Delta PM, AA EXP, Wannabe SkyWest 1K
Posts: 644
Before I made A-List, was glad they increased EBCI costs to cut the number people buying it. That said, a lot of my WN flying is SFO/OAK-BUR, and the WN experience on a 1 hour flight in 10C isn't much different from 22C, especially when you can exit the plane through the back door at BUR.
Dec 21, 2018, 3:15 pm
#112
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,359
Before I made A-List, was glad they increased EBCI costs to cut the number people buying it. That said, a lot of my WN flying is SFO/OAK-BUR, and the WN experience on a 1 hour flight in 10C isn't much different from 22C, especially when you can exit the plane through the back door at BUR.
-James
Dec 21, 2018, 8:26 pm
#113
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: USA
Programs: AA Exp
Posts: 519
Dec 21, 2018, 8:29 pm
#114
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Traveling the World
Posts: 6,072
Well first of all, I'm glad you will never fly Air Nambia (IATA SW) again. i wouldn't fly them either!
Southwest expressly states that EBCI is not a guaranteed "A" position, just that it checks you in 36 hours in advance. I check in at T-24 and constantly get low B and sometimes high B. Around this time of year, I get A a lot because many once a year customers check in at the airport.
I think you could give me a list of 100 reasons you wouldn't fly Southwest again, and while I could argue most of them with you, this would not be a good reason. First world problems at its finest here.
Southwest expressly states that EBCI is not a guaranteed "A" position, just that it checks you in 36 hours in advance. I check in at T-24 and constantly get low B and sometimes high B. Around this time of year, I get A a lot because many once a year customers check in at the airport.
I think you could give me a list of 100 reasons you wouldn't fly Southwest again, and while I could argue most of them with you, this would not be a good reason. First world problems at its finest here.
Dec 21, 2018, 11:25 pm
#115
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: BLI
Programs: Alaska MVPG
Posts: 206
Agreed and have to ask, "what's the point of early boarding a WN flight?" at most these flights last what 4-5 hours? That's short-haul in my book and shouldn't be a concern where you sit (even middle seat!). An argument could be made about being able to place items in overhead bin albeit given checked bags are free on WN, I doubt there is much of a struggle finding overhead bin space.
-James
-James
Dec 22, 2018, 10:38 am
#116
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Blue Ridge, GA
Posts: 5,509
"Since you’re boarding earlier, there will be more open seats and overhead bin space from which to choose. Then you can sit back and relax as the other passengers board."
The discount airline, based in Dallas, lost $37 million in the first six months of this year, and analysts expect that 2009 will be its first unprofitable year since the early 1970s.
Dec 23, 2018, 9:02 am
#117
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,502
Early / priority boarding virtually guarantees your roll aboard makes it on to the flight, avoid the risk of being forced to gate check a bag.
Dec 23, 2018, 5:02 pm
#118
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2001
Programs: DL 1 million, AA 1 mil, HH lapsed Diamond, Marriott Plat
Posts: 28,190
The willingness of Americans to pay for 'preferred' seats and Economy+ seats on tens (if not hundreds) of millions of itineraries proves you wrong. Few people want middle seats or even seats at the back. Watch what sections fill first on a WN flight.
Dec 24, 2018, 9:58 am
#119
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Denver, CO, USA
Programs: Sometimes known as [ARG:6 UNDEFINED]
Posts: 26,691
Can someone explain to me the mystique behind choosing a seat on a 737? Aren't all seats on said aircraft more or less equal? I can understand if it was a 757/767/777/787 where there exist bulkhead and emergency exit seats that make a real difference.
Safe Travels,
James
Safe Travels,
James
Dec 25, 2018, 8:44 am
#120
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicagoland, IL, USA
Programs: WN CP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,189