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CNN reporting SW plane skids off BUR runway upon landing

CNN reporting SW plane skids off BUR runway upon landing

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Old Dec 6, 18, 12:26 pm
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CNN reporting SW plane skids off BUR runway upon landing

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/us/bu...way/index.html

www.abc7.com has pictures of landing gear sunk in EMAS arresting concrete.

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Old Dec 6, 18, 3:13 pm
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Security lines at LAX are impossibly long. Maybe 800 people in line. Precheck pax are being sent to the back of that line. TSA staff blames the diversion of passengers from Burbank and asserts that they are using a “new procedure” but everything will be back to normal in a few hours.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 3:36 pm
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Old Dec 6, 18, 3:38 pm
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Security lines at LAX are impossibly long. Maybe 800 people in line. Precheck pax are being sent to the back of that line. TSA staff blames the diversion of passengers from Burbank and asserts that they are using a “new procedure” but everything will be back to normal in a few hours.
Is the WN terminal at LAX still isolated from the other terminals (airside)? I seem to recall last time I flew WN out of there that there was no way to clear security (and use a lounge) in another terminal and then walk to your Southwest gate.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 3:40 pm
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Correct. An airside connection to T2 (only) is planned but construction has not started.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by etna View Post
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/us/bu...way/index.html

www.abc7.com has pictures of landing gear sunk in EMAS arresting concrete.
Thank you for an accurate headline. The FT front page headline claims its due to Malibu landslides, even though Malibu is nowhere, nowhere, nowhere near Burbank.
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Thank you for an accurate headline. The FT front page headline claims its due to Malibu landslides, even though Malibu is nowhere, nowhere, nowhere near Burbank.
You think that's bad; listen to the HLN video in the link. "...rolled off the end of an 8-mile runway..."
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian View Post
You think that's bad; listen to the HLN video in the link. "...rolled off the end of an 8-mile runway..."
Well, it sounds like airports need to start building 9-mile-long runways then.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 5:58 pm
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Another link to a CBS story of the plane going off the runway @ Burbank that was coming in from Oakland.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018...rbank-airport/

I fly SJC <-> BUR regularly and flew down/back there 2 days ago also in the rain. Pretty fun landing once they catch the runway and try to not over shoot their gate- esp in the rain....

Humph.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 6:12 pm
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Aviation Herald has it up

Incident: Southwest B737 at Burbank on Dec 6th 2018, overran runway on landing
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Old Dec 6, 18, 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian View Post
You think that's bad; listen to the HLN video in the link. "...rolled off the end of an 8-mile runway..."
How could they possibly turn Runway 8 into an 8-mile runway? Oh, wait, let's get it on on-air now and we'll see if it makes any sense later.. Geez...

(Hey Fred, wouldn't that make it a 42,240 foot runway? They couldn't land on that?)
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Any idea how long it'll take to repair the EMAS?
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Old Dec 6, 18, 7:48 pm
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Any idea how long it'll take to repair the EMAS?
Not that long. If memory serves, only the individual "tiles" that were crushed need to be replaced, and those already exist (stored somewhere), and it's just a matter of digging the olds ones out, preparing the base surface, and lowering fresh replacements in. The tiles are not poured in place like regular strength concerete would be..
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Cool. Does a NOTAM go out mentioning that it's been damaged? (I ask paradoxically I guess, as "if you need it, you NEED it" and I guess I can't imagine that knowing it's out of service could factor into a pilot's decision, but of course I have zero idea ....)
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Old Dec 6, 18, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by kennycrudup View Post
Cool. Does a NOTAM go out mentioning that it's been damaged? (I ask paradoxically I guess, as "if you need it, you NEED it" and I guess I can't imagine that knowing it's out of service could factor into a pilot's decision, but of course I have zero idea ....)
Yep.

If memory serves, the month-long period that's it's showing right now is a computer-generated default from when they originally posted the NOTAM. (as OPNLguy already opined, unlikely to take long).

Data Current as of: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 03:55:00 UTC
KBUR BOB HOPE
!BUR 12/019 (KBUR A1016/18) BUR RWY 26 CLSD TO TKOF EXC TAX 1812070203-1901061400
!BUR 12/018 (KBUR A1017/18) BUR RWY 08 ENGINEERED MATERIALS ARST SYSTEM NOT STD 1812070200-1901061400
!BUR 12/017 (KBUR A1015/18) BUR COM CPDLC OUT OF SERVICE 1812080600-1812080700
!BUR 12/016 (KBUR A1014/18) BUR RWY 08/26 CLSD 1812062339-1812071300
!BUR 12/015 (KBUR A1012/18) BUR TWY D BTN TWY D2 AND APCH END RWY 26 CLSD 1812062311-1812071000
!BUR 12/014 (KBUR A1010/18) BUR RWY 26 RWY END ID LGT OUT OF SERVICE 1812062054-1812120700
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