Pre - Board
May 1, 2019, 6:35 am
#61
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Yes. I am not sure why this needed yet another thread to join the dozens of others raising the same issue. Hopefully the Mods will be along to merge this into one of the others.
The problem is centered on the fact that WN cannot lawfully deny a person who claims that they require pre-boarding as the result of a disability, even if the Ops agent is an MD. Couple that with WN's failure to provide seat assignments and there becomes a reason to claim a disability.
It is a flaw in the business model of which WN and its passengers are well aware and for which there is no good solution beyond a change in the law (which would work to the disadvantage of people with hidden disabilities).
The problem is centered on the fact that WN cannot lawfully deny a person who claims that they require pre-boarding as the result of a disability, even if the Ops agent is an MD. Couple that with WN's failure to provide seat assignments and there becomes a reason to claim a disability.
It is a flaw in the business model of which WN and its passengers are well aware and for which there is no good solution beyond a change in the law (which would work to the disadvantage of people with hidden disabilities).
May 1, 2019, 9:23 am
#62
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Family boarding is non-sense....make them all sit in the back of the plane....They can run around Disney, but need to pre-board?
Make the fake wheelchair people get off the plane last
No need for a person with a fake therapy dog in a pocketbook to pre-board.
It is all non-sense.
Make the fake wheelchair people get off the plane last
No need for a person with a fake therapy dog in a pocketbook to pre-board.
It is all non-sense.
May 1, 2019, 9:48 am
#63
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How is this any different than your other thread about pre-boarders? Kudos though, for using a new picture this time.
Pre - Board
Pre - Board
May 1, 2019, 10:27 am
#66
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How is this any different than your other thread about pre-boarders? Kudos though, for using a new picture this time.
By the way, if that's PBI (seems to be since it looks like the same gate as in your other thread), I bet none of those people walked for hours at Disney.
By the way, if that's PBI (seems to be since it looks like the same gate as in your other thread), I bet none of those people walked for hours at Disney.
Your accompanying MDW-MCO 'pre-board' anecdote forever shifted the Disney paradigm.
May 1, 2019, 10:46 am
#67
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May 1, 2019, 11:12 am
#68
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May 3, 2019, 2:13 pm
#72
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I think everyone complaining about Pre-Boarders has no faith! Each and every Southwest Flight is a spiritual experience as people that need a wheelchair to board are suddenly able to move up the jetway at an amazing pace.
The FA's must be ordained as all they have to do is incant the magical words "There are no wheelchairs in the jetway, if you need a wheelchair please remain seated" and even more are cured!
Amen
The FA's must be ordained as all they have to do is incant the magical words "There are no wheelchairs in the jetway, if you need a wheelchair please remain seated" and even more are cured!
Amen
May 3, 2019, 3:55 pm
#73
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Miracle Flights began shortly after Jesus walked the Earth. Flying to Florida
Or at least when WN monetized the boarding sequence.
Or at least when WN monetized the boarding sequence.
May 4, 2019, 10:13 pm
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Family boarding is non-sense....make them all sit in the back of the plane....They can run around Disney, but need to pre-board?
Make the fake wheelchair people get off the plane last
No need for a person with a fake therapy dog in a pocketbook to pre-board.
It is all non-sense.
Make the fake wheelchair people get off the plane last
No need for a person with a fake therapy dog in a pocketbook to pre-board.
It is all non-sense.
- Families using family boarding don't preboard.
- How do you know someone is a "fake wheelchair person?"
- As soon as ignorance becomes a legal disability, you'll be able to preboard, so you've got that going for you at least.
There's no doubt that some people abuse preboarding. That doesn't mean, however, that someone using a wheelchair to board and not using one to get off, isn't legally disabled and more importantly, needs to preboard. The jet bridge is what, 100 feet long give or take? The curb or parking to the plane is what, 2 - 3 times that if you are at MCI, and easily 2 or 3 thousand feet at many airports and even longer at others. I wonder why someone wouldn't need a wheelchair to go 100 feet from the plane to the gate where they can sit, ride a golf cart, wait for the wheelchair that was supposed to be at the door of the plane, etc, but they would need a wheelchair to go the half mile or so from the car to the plane?
I suppose that while using a wheelchair can make a person's hidden disability visible, words can do the same thing for the ignorant. At least there's that to be thankful for.
