What is the highest status I can obtain from ONLY credit card spend
#31
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QUESTION FOR ORIGINAL POSTER:
What are you expecting to get from status?
1.No status allows you to select seats in advance.
2. No status allows you to select your seatmates. Hint - boarding first is not always the best idea.
EVERYONE gets free bags. No problems.
NOBODY gets first class, or economy select, or anything like that.
What are you expecting to get from status?
1.No status allows you to select seats in advance.
2. No status allows you to select your seatmates. Hint - boarding first is not always the best idea.
EVERYONE gets free bags. No problems.
NOBODY gets first class, or economy select, or anything like that.
#32
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OP, status is not worth all that much on Southwest.
Yeah, you get bonus points and can do same-day standby and a few other things, but it’s not like you get upgraded to business or first class and get food/wine/better seating.
The Sourhwest credit cards are inferior to others like the Chase Sapphires or certain others, unless you are specifically going for Companion Pass in that calendar year, in which case the CP-qualifying points are valuable. You are generally giving up a lot of value by putting spend on them as opposed to various alternatives.
Yeah, you get bonus points and can do same-day standby and a few other things, but it’s not like you get upgraded to business or first class and get food/wine/better seating.
The Sourhwest credit cards are inferior to others like the Chase Sapphires or certain others, unless you are specifically going for Companion Pass in that calendar year, in which case the CP-qualifying points are valuable. You are generally giving up a lot of value by putting spend on them as opposed to various alternatives.
#34
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It depends why you want status and what your flying patterns are. Southwest has no checked baggage fee, change fee, or cancellation fees for all customers. Also no first class. (But you can opt in to get 4 alcoholic drink vouchers for every 10 one-way trips/5 roundtrips. Or get drink vouchers from the credit card). So while status on other airlines will often get you those benefits, they are already available to all Southwest flyers.
As others have said, Southwest has an open boarding policy, so your choice of seat is based on what's open when you get on the plane, with no pre-reserved seats. So one might want to optimize their boarding position. Generally (excluding pre-boards, family, military boarding, etc), boarding goes in this order:
Depending on your flying patterns and which airports you'll be flying out of, status may or may not be worthwhile, as one can optimize their boarding position in other ways that may end up being cheaper. IMO if your goal is just to attain status, the credit card is not the best way to get there. (Cheap intra-CA flights might be your friend there).
If you already have status on another airline, you might also be able to use a status match, which makes the answers to this thread a lot easier (discussed here: New(er) limited promo? A-List/another airlines status)
As others have said, Southwest has an open boarding policy, so your choice of seat is based on what's open when you get on the plane, with no pre-reserved seats. So one might want to optimize their boarding position. Generally (excluding pre-boards, family, military boarding, etc), boarding goes in this order:
- Business Select (15 per flight. You can pay for this when you you have to pay for this when you buy a ticket. Often a couple times more than the basic "wanna get away" fare. This fare includes a larger points earning, and a free alcoholic beverage as well as an early boarding position. If all 15 are not sold out by day of departure, you can pay a fee at the gate to be one of the first 15 to board, though
- Customers with Status (A list and A list preferred)
- Customers who purchased "early bird checkin" (it's generally believed that those who bought EBCI earlier will get an earlier boarding position)
- Customers in order of check in, starting at T-24.
Depending on your flying patterns and which airports you'll be flying out of, status may or may not be worthwhile, as one can optimize their boarding position in other ways that may end up being cheaper. IMO if your goal is just to attain status, the credit card is not the best way to get there. (Cheap intra-CA flights might be your friend there).
If you already have status on another airline, you might also be able to use a status match, which makes the answers to this thread a lot easier (discussed here: New(er) limited promo? A-List/another airlines status)
#35
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The plan that works for us is spending $110k between the two cards (enough to reup the companion pass), and then putting the rest of our annual spend on the sapphire reserve card. That way you've got 110k points banked with southwest, and then you can always transfer more over from UR as needed.
#36
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You could technically put $100k on a SW personal card and $100k on a SW business card and get 30000 TQP, so you'd just need probably 1 business select flight to hit A-list.
That being said, makes a lot more sense to put that $200k on a card with better reward value (Chase ultimate rewards) and just buy early bird boarding for every flight you take instead.
That being said, makes a lot more sense to put that $200k on a card with better reward value (Chase ultimate rewards) and just buy early bird boarding for every flight you take instead.
#37
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That is what I am thinking. I currently run around $200k annually thru my mix of Chase Freedom (max bonus categories quarterly), Chase Freedom Unlimited (all non-bonus categories) and Chase Sapphire Reserve (travel and dining), then transfer all points to the CSR for max value and transfer options. Just don't see where getting the companion ticket will outweigh benefits I am currently getting on CC spend
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That is what I am thinking. I currently run around $200k annually thru my mix of Chase Freedom (max bonus categories quarterly), Chase Freedom Unlimited (all non-bonus categories) and Chase Sapphire Reserve (travel and dining), then transfer all points to the CSR for max value and transfer options. Just don't see where getting the companion ticket will outweigh benefits I am currently getting on CC spend
If you are running $200k in credit card charges each year, you surely should be getting as many NEW cards as possible and getting the signup bonuses.
As to getting companion pass - how many times a year will you make use of that?
AND - if you are looking at Companion Pass, time it for 1st qtr o 2019 and get almost two years of it.
#39
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That is what I am thinking. I currently run around $200k annually thru my mix of Chase Freedom (max bonus categories quarterly), Chase Freedom Unlimited (all non-bonus categories) and Chase Sapphire Reserve (travel and dining), then transfer all points to the CSR for max value and transfer options. Just don't see where getting the companion ticket will outweigh benefits I am currently getting on CC spend
It allows you to bring a named person on every flight for up to potentially almost 2 years. Every single time you fly, on a paid fare or on points. For just the $5.60 security fee (domestically).
Can be worth thousands of dollars easy.
#40
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That is what I am thinking. I currently run around $200k annually thru my mix of Chase Freedom (max bonus categories quarterly), Chase Freedom Unlimited (all non-bonus categories) and Chase Sapphire Reserve (travel and dining), then transfer all points to the CSR for max value and transfer options. Just don't see where getting the companion ticket will outweigh benefits I am currently getting on CC spend
#41
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Ink's easy guide to WN points:
The most important thing to remember is that there are three different point counts.
Rapid Rewards points: These are earned from paid flying, credit card use, partners and more. They are the points that are collected in your Rapid Rewards account. The total gets larger as you earn them and drops when you spend them. Add points every so often but at least every 23 months, and they never expire. (They will on occasion be devalued, but not taken.)
Companion pass qualifying points: Most of the Rapid Rewards points are also Companion pass points, but it is not a one-to-one correlation. These are very similar to the RR points above and come from many of the same sources. You need 110,000 of these in a year to earn Companion Pass. At the end of the year WN comes in and takes all the accumulated CPQP points and you start on January 1 with none. The CP is effective the moment the 110,000 points is posted and lasts until December 31 the following year.
Tier Qualifying Points: These are earned from flying or credit card spend. The points from credit card spend is limited to 15K points per year. At the end of the year, WN takes all of your TQP and you start January 1 with none. Like CP, A-list and Preferred are good through December the following year. Bottom line, butts in seats are required to earn enough points for A-list.
The most important thing to remember is that there are three different point counts.
Rapid Rewards points: These are earned from paid flying, credit card use, partners and more. They are the points that are collected in your Rapid Rewards account. The total gets larger as you earn them and drops when you spend them. Add points every so often but at least every 23 months, and they never expire. (They will on occasion be devalued, but not taken.)
Companion pass qualifying points: Most of the Rapid Rewards points are also Companion pass points, but it is not a one-to-one correlation. These are very similar to the RR points above and come from many of the same sources. You need 110,000 of these in a year to earn Companion Pass. At the end of the year WN comes in and takes all the accumulated CPQP points and you start on January 1 with none. The CP is effective the moment the 110,000 points is posted and lasts until December 31 the following year.
Tier Qualifying Points: These are earned from flying or credit card spend. The points from credit card spend is limited to 15K points per year. At the end of the year, WN takes all of your TQP and you start January 1 with none. Like CP, A-list and Preferred are good through December the following year. Bottom line, butts in seats are required to earn enough points for A-list.
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#43
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You are aware that the Companion Pass is not a “ticket” I hope.
It allows you to bring a named person on every flight for up to potentially almost 2 years. Every single time you fly, on a paid fare or on points. For just the $5.60 security fee (domestically).
Can be worth thousands of dollars easy.
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I see OP stopped back in.
Still wondering what sort of perks/benefits he is looking for???
Still wondering what sort of perks/benefits he is looking for???