6+ hour delay due to "Operational challenges" leading to long WX delay
#17
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The reason for the delay is irrelevant and wasting time trying to figure out what percentage of the delay is attributable to what reason, is an exercise in futility.
There is no compensation for delays in the US. Carriers are free to offer customer service gestures on a voluntary basis. The only exception is, on a carrier-by-carrier basis, who picks up the hotel room if there is an overnight delay. That did not occur here so does not matter.
Travel insurance takes care of the rest, if one chooses to purchase it. OP's policy starts at 12 hours. There are policies which start as low as 3 hours. They cost more. It is a choice.
There is no compensation for delays in the US. Carriers are free to offer customer service gestures on a voluntary basis. The only exception is, on a carrier-by-carrier basis, who picks up the hotel room if there is an overnight delay. That did not occur here so does not matter.
Travel insurance takes care of the rest, if one chooses to purchase it. OP's policy starts at 12 hours. There are policies which start as low as 3 hours. They cost more. It is a choice.
#18
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WN has offered compensation as a goodwill gesture for some extensive wx related delays/operational issues. Long story short, had a PIT-MDW flight last year that was initially delayed due to wx approaching MDW/once en route diverted to SDF and delayed there/then en route again diverted a second time to MKE and delayed there before finally making into MDW early the next morning and about 10 hours late in total. This was due to non-stop recurring lines of thunderstorms that just hammered MDW that day. Flew in circles for hours holding on those flights until we got to fuel minimums and were forced to divert not once but twice. About a week later, I received an unsolicited apology letter from WN via email with a $200 luv voucher for the troubles and enduring the very long afternoon/night/early morning (but no refund of fare paid). Seemed proactive and fair to me and saw no reason to complain or push it further. I would like to think they realized it probably would have been best for both them and us to have just cancelled the flight in PIT after the initial delay.
In the OP's case, they were refunded the fare they paid as a goodwill gesture. Consider that a win based on the fact that they didn't have to do anything.
In the OP's case, they were refunded the fare they paid as a goodwill gesture. Consider that a win based on the fact that they didn't have to do anything.
Last edited by chuckworth; Jul 17, 2018 at 11:37 am
#19
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I think part of the issue is that you waited 3 months. The one time I received a voucher from Southwest, I got an unprompted e-mail the next day apologizing and saying a voucher was on the way and the voucher came the day after that. I don't know that you are going to have much luck and I wouldn't pursue it to the ends of the earth, but it can't hurt to try. The worst they can say is no.
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#23
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WN has offered compensation as a goodwill gesture for some extensive wx related delays/operational issues. Long story short, had a PIT-MDW flight last year that was initially delayed due to wx approaching MDW/once en route diverted to SDF and delayed there/then en route again diverted a second time to MKE and delayed there before finally making into MDW early the next morning and about 10 hours late in total. This was due to non-stop recurring lines of thunderstorms that just hammered MDW that day. Flew in circles for hours holding on those flights until we got to fuel minimums and were forced to divert not once but twice. About a week later, I received an unsolicited apology letter from WN via email with a $200 luv voucher for the troubles and enduring the very long afternoon/night/early morning (but no refund of fare paid). Seemed proactive and fair to me and saw no reason to complain or push it further. I would like to think they realized it probably would have been best for both them and us to have just cancelled the flight in PIT after the initial delay.
In the OP's case, they were refunded the fare they paid as a goodwill gesture. Consider that a win based on the fact that they didn't have to do anything.
In the OP's case, they were refunded the fare they paid as a goodwill gesture. Consider that a win based on the fact that they didn't have to do anything.
#24
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Doubtful-I waited a long time for the train shuttle. I was able to convince the other woman waiting that we needed to call an uber but it was a madhouse, worse than the Sunday after Thanksgiving. I do regret checking my bag because I could have jumped on another flight.
#25
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Thanks-I was simply wanting to get information on how WN CS typically handles things like this. Their model is good w/free checked bags and flexibility to change flights without fees, however they are not always the lowest fares nor best routes for us. Might be better to focus on status & have a CC with an airline for free bags, reduced mileage awards, etc with better routes for us. Also just learned that authorized users get the free checked bag perk, enabling all of my kids the benefit of an airline CCard with 1 annual fee.
#27
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I emailed CS after the flight and they refunded my unbelievably cheap fare, acknowledging:
"we regret that Flight #5654 was diverted to Orlando due to inclement weather, especially after it was initially delayed due to operational challenges."
I just tried twitter and they are sticking w/the $27 refund. I have travel credits due to expire and I requested they extend them without deducting the $100, instead as a goodwill gesture, but they denied it..
"we regret that Flight #5654 was diverted to Orlando due to inclement weather, especially after it was initially delayed due to operational challenges."
I just tried twitter and they are sticking w/the $27 refund. I have travel credits due to expire and I requested they extend them without deducting the $100, instead as a goodwill gesture, but they denied it..
The avenues for compensation are, in order of probability of success:
1. Snail letter to Customer Relations. People that read those have real authority to help.
2. Facebook or Twitter.
3. Email
4. Telephone call to Customer Relations (might jump to number 2 on the list if you are very personable and experienced or if you have elite status).
Next time start with option 1. This time I think you are stuck since you have already appealed to Twitter. Invest the time in writing a letter only if it makes you feel better, which is sometimes reason enough.