Mother questioned by WN whether biracial child is really hers
May 31, 2018, 12:44 am
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Some of the anti-child human trafficking training instructs people to ask for photos indicating historical relationship between/amongst individuals, with online/social media photos being considered too.
May 31, 2018, 12:56 am
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I have a couple problems with this though...
Before any outrage, let me first preface and say the employee was clearly in the wrong.
1) If the woman had been travelling with the kid and no one else then I'd side with the employee.
2) If the woman and her husband don't wanna share last names, which is fine, they should make sure they're on the same booking. Cuz if not, how would anyone know it's his kid too?
3) Obviously the employee was wrong when she asked for a facebook post, cuz frankly what would a facebook post prove.
But lets not forget...this is only a problem because she was wrong. If she was right, and saved this kid from being kidnapped/trafficked, there'd be a story about a heroic Southwest agent who stopped an abduction. We've literally seen those exact stories posted.
Folks, bi-racial or not, (yes she had a passport for the kid) you should probably have something else on you that can prove you're the parent if the kid's last name isn't the same as yours. Either that, or have the person (in this case the father) who shares the last name board with the baby.
Before any outrage, let me first preface and say the employee was clearly in the wrong.
1) If the woman had been travelling with the kid and no one else then I'd side with the employee.
2) If the woman and her husband don't wanna share last names, which is fine, they should make sure they're on the same booking. Cuz if not, how would anyone know it's his kid too?
3) Obviously the employee was wrong when she asked for a facebook post, cuz frankly what would a facebook post prove.
But lets not forget...this is only a problem because she was wrong. If she was right, and saved this kid from being kidnapped/trafficked, there'd be a story about a heroic Southwest agent who stopped an abduction. We've literally seen those exact stories posted.
Folks, bi-racial or not, (yes she had a passport for the kid) you should probably have something else on you that can prove you're the parent if the kid's last name isn't the same as yours. Either that, or have the person (in this case the father) who shares the last name board with the baby.
May 31, 2018, 1:14 am
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employee was clearly RIGHT. Kid had different surname & was a different colour. There are so many child abductions these days, especially internationally to middle east. 60 Min Australia did one such story, where they tried to snatch kids back for mother who had custody. They failed. I think the kids had been kidnapped to Lebanon.
May 31, 2018, 1:17 am
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May 31, 2018, 4:08 am
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If so then yes, the husband would have purchased his own ticket.
May 31, 2018, 4:17 am
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My friend showed pictures of the family on his phone and the police apologized for the inconvenience.
As a father, my friend thanked the officers for their concern and went back to the restaurant to thank the manager for their employees concern as well.
May 31, 2018, 9:13 am
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Well, it looks like WN is saying they were in the wrong--at least what they told TPG:
“We immediately reached out to Ms. Gottlieb to learn more about her concerns and express our apologies; we appreciate her insight in what was a productive conversation. Southwest Airlines’ policies include verifying the age of lap children by reviewing birth certificates or government issued identification. Our reports indicate our Employee questioned a discrepancy between last names on the provided documentation, even though domestic travel would not require carriers to match last names of child and guardian. We utilized this situation as a coaching moment to ensure our policies are properly followed.”
“We immediately reached out to Ms. Gottlieb to learn more about her concerns and express our apologies; we appreciate her insight in what was a productive conversation. Southwest Airlines’ policies include verifying the age of lap children by reviewing birth certificates or government issued identification. Our reports indicate our Employee questioned a discrepancy between last names on the provided documentation, even though domestic travel would not require carriers to match last names of child and guardian. We utilized this situation as a coaching moment to ensure our policies are properly followed.”
May 31, 2018, 9:22 am
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I have a friend who's 3 year old was on a "help me" phrase for a few weeks, after going through a drive through they were pulled over by police who sited concern expressed by the drive through staff.
My friend showed pictures of the family on his phone and the police apologized for the inconvenience.
As a father, my friend thanked the officers for their concern and went back to the restaurant to thank the manager for their employees concern as well.
My friend showed pictures of the family on his phone and the police apologized for the inconvenience.
As a father, my friend thanked the officers for their concern and went back to the restaurant to thank the manager for their employees concern as well.
Racism is a form of rudeness, a crude form at that.
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May 31, 2018, 9:43 am
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May 31, 2018, 10:52 am
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May 31, 2018, 10:55 am
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Jun 1, 2018, 10:02 am
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I have a friend who's 3 year old was on a "help me" phrase for a few weeks, after going through a drive through they were pulled over by police who sited concern expressed by the drive through staff.
My friend showed pictures of the family on his phone and the police apologized for the inconvenience.
As a father, my friend thanked the officers for their concern and went back to the restaurant to thank the manager for their employees concern as well.
My friend showed pictures of the family on his phone and the police apologized for the inconvenience.
As a father, my friend thanked the officers for their concern and went back to the restaurant to thank the manager for their employees concern as well.
Had I been the father in that car, after having visited a restaurant which then called the cops on me for no good reason, I would have chewed out the cop, gone back to the restaurant, chewed out the manager, and then absent a satisfactory apology and refund, a lawsuit.
People need to stop letting other people walk all over them. It is bad for your self-esteem and it encourages the growth of a SNITCH society... like Nazi Germany, or Scientology.
People need to cut it out with the hair trigger response of calling 911!
