Press reports "Southwest Airlines kicks father and his toddler daughter off flight
Mar 17, 2018, 1:26 pm
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I agree 100% with OP's statement that This Does Not Look Right. It would look more right if we had all the relevant facts (which of course we don't). Hearsay, rumors, and opinions from those who weren't even there are useless.
From what I can tell, a passenger was not complying with proper instructions. Passenger was taken off the flight and put on the next one. Some other passengers were also on the plane and one had a camera but didn't catch the whole thing. Oh yes, passenger in question was a child traveling with at least one parent
Is there the remotest possibility that there is more information out there that is relevant, or have we already seen enough to form an intelligent opinion?
From what I can tell, a passenger was not complying with proper instructions. Passenger was taken off the flight and put on the next one. Some other passengers were also on the plane and one had a camera but didn't catch the whole thing. Oh yes, passenger in question was a child traveling with at least one parent
Is there the remotest possibility that there is more information out there that is relevant, or have we already seen enough to form an intelligent opinion?
Mar 17, 2018, 1:39 pm
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In some circumstances, any time they want. The First Amendment is about government infringement and Southwest is a private organization that is legally free to limit speech in many cases under US law.
Mar 17, 2018, 1:47 pm
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Yes. The captain declares "we have a belligerent passenger" on requesting a return to gate. Could be the magic threshold for such.
Mar 17, 2018, 3:08 pm
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Saw article on DailyMail
Southwest Airlines kicks father and his toddler daughter off flight | Daily Mail Online.
I can understand a 3 year old being scared at first trip in plane, but staying in your seat buckled in is a must once the plane starts pushing back from the gate.
Is the child used to sitting in parents lap while riding in a car?
Sounds like the Captain made the decision, and that was it.
Southwest Airlines kicks father and his toddler daughter off flight | Daily Mail Online.
I can understand a 3 year old being scared at first trip in plane, but staying in your seat buckled in is a must once the plane starts pushing back from the gate.
Is the child used to sitting in parents lap while riding in a car?
Sounds like the Captain made the decision, and that was it.
Mar 17, 2018, 3:13 pm
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Not sure about "100% on the father" statement. Sometimes toddlers are just being toddlers. I think there isn't enough solid info here to go on.
Mar 17, 2018, 3:19 pm
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Which is a shame and speaks to the larger issue these days... And that is the facts and objective analysis are taking a backseat to emotion, faux outrage, and the SJW agenda.
Mar 17, 2018, 3:39 pm
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Mar 17, 2018, 4:29 pm
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Is it clear the father was declared belligerent rather than the toddler being declared belligerent?
Mar 17, 2018, 5:34 pm
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I think it's a shame that anyone who wasn't on the plane thinks they have enough facts to claim the high ground here.
Mar 17, 2018, 6:16 pm
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Mar 18, 2018, 10:57 am
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How is that even relevant to this situation? What does the 1st amendment have to do with any of this?
Mar 18, 2018, 11:02 am
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maybe i missed it but does it say how old the child was? If she is under 2 then just because he has a seat for her doesn't mean she has to be in it. I'm assuming she is over 2 but didn't see that stated anywhere to confirm.
Mar 18, 2018, 2:05 pm
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First paragraph. I was reading a few different news sites about this story and didn't know it wasn't in the story the OP posted.