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Southwest flying out of PAE this fall (Update: Probably not happening)

Southwest flying out of PAE this fall (Update: Probably not happening)

Old Jan 25, 18, 8:37 am
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Southwest flying out of PAE this fall (Update: Probably not happening)

I could not be more excited. I do not care where they go, I am on board.

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...s-paine-field/
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Old Jan 25, 18, 8:48 am
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Not shocked at all - gotta keep up with Alaska.

My guess is 3x OAK, 1x LAS, 1x DEN
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Old Jan 25, 18, 1:59 pm
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Yes, seems like a move to keep up with Alaska on west coast routes. That's a lot of planes though. Will be curious if there's enough demand to keep up with that many flights across 3 airlines, or if there'll be too much capacity for a while. (Assuming an OAK route, I'd be interested in trying it sometime I'm going up that way!)
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Old Jan 25, 18, 2:38 pm
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How is public transit to PAE?
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Old Jan 25, 18, 3:36 pm
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How is public transit to PAE?
Almost non existent right now. I am assuming they will put some decent bus service in from the transit center, and Light Rail is in the planning stages to go in from SEA to there eventually, maybe, 5 years or more I believe.
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Old Jan 25, 18, 7:02 pm
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My guess is PHX, LAS, OAK.

Let the speculation begin!
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Old Jan 25, 18, 9:05 pm
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Originally Posted by N830MH View Post
My guess is PHX, LAS, OAK.

Let the speculation begin!
How about SLC? Given that Delta is not among the airlines trying for PAE, and SLC is not among the destinations announced by AS, WN would likely have flight from PAE to that Delta hub to themselves! And it would especially ironic given how people in AS forum call what DL is doing at SEA "DL's war for Seattle". So it'd be funny for WN (rather than either AS or DL) to win one battle in this war by flying from PAE to a DL hub.
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Old Jan 25, 18, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by tatterdema View Post
Almost non existent right now. I am assuming they will put some decent bus service in from the transit center, and Light Rail is in the planning stages to go in from SEA to there eventually, maybe, 5 years or more I believe.
New estimate 2036, before it was 2041, so 5 years sooner. Just around the corner
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Old Jan 26, 18, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by N830MH View Post
My guess is PHX, LAS, OAK

Let the speculation begin!
Originally Posted by 737MAX8 View Post
Not shocked at all - gotta keep up with Alaska.

My guess is 3x OAK, 1x LAS, 1x DEN


My initial thought/guess is very similar. I'd lean more towards DEN over PHX because it's a shorter stage length with almost identical connection options.You could build DEN or LAS with PHX thru service in and out of PAE. But it's Just my 2 cents.

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Old Jan 26, 18, 11:39 am
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Old Jan 26, 18, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch View Post
How about SLC? Given that Delta is not among the airlines trying for PAE, and SLC is not among the destinations announced by AS, WN would likely have flight from PAE to that Delta hub to themselves! And it would especially ironic given how people in AS forum call what DL is doing at SEA "DL's war for Seattle". So it'd be funny for WN (rather than either AS or DL) to win one battle in this war by flying from PAE to a DL hub.
I don't think they have enough gate. Right now, it's just only 2 gates. They had no room to build more gates. Later in the future, they will build more gates. They will bring more airlines at PAE.
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Old Jan 26, 18, 10:44 pm
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I don't think they have enough gate. Right now, it's just only 2 gates. They had no room to build more gates. Later in the future, they will build more gates. They will bring more airlines at PAE.
Paradoxically, if they build too many gates, there will be a fall in traffic. With only two gates, 3 airlines have scrambled to offer as many flights as possible up to the 24 flight limit. If the airport wasn't constrained by NIMBYs and opened with 8 gates, they might have only had G4 to LAS and QX to PDX at first. Certainly, they wouldn't have attracted AS with 13 flights. Maybe they can get county approval to operate a 3rd jetway from the same terminal (situated towards to tower). If the third gate comes with an allowance to a total of 36 flights, there may be sufficient demand.

If there are 5 or 6 gates, AS would start very slowly and slowly build up.
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Old Jan 27, 18, 5:20 pm
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PAE-OAK will definitely be added. I'm going to guess PAE-SMF will be included as well. Primarily because SMF is an important (but overlooked) WN station in California and the West Coast. Sacramento is capital to the sixth largest economy; WN dominates market share at SMF and it's greater region. WN can also offer connections in SMF like it does at OAK to So Cal and LAS. It's also shorter than PHX or DEN distance. It's a route that also will not be covered by AS.

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Old Jan 27, 18, 8:29 pm
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Since there's a limit to 24 flights from PAE, I think the new flights will not necessarily be frequent flights to hubs but will be the 5 highest yield flights that WN can think of. Who know, you might find some oddities such as:
OAK-1, SMF-1, MDW-1, PHX-1, STL-1
or
OAK-1, BWI-1, DAL-1, LAS-1, LAX-1
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Old Nov 15, 18, 8:32 am
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https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2018-...-Field-flights

Alaska is also excited to offer more options to its guests. The airline recently acquired five additional gate times from Southwest Airlines at Paine Field, which would allow Alaska to offer up to 18 daily nonstop departures in early 2019 upon receipt of required government approvals. This would mean more frequencies to several of the previously announced destinations: Las Vegas; Los Angeles; Orange County, California; Phoenix; Portland, Oregon; San Diego; San Francisco; and San Jose, California. The all-jet service would be provided by Horizon Air flying the Embraer 175 aircraft featuring first class and premium class cabins.
It seems like WN had second thoughts about PAE...
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