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Old Jan 22, 2018, 10:50 am
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Originally Posted by Proudelitist
DEN is really my least favorite airport in the US. There are so many reasons to hate DEN..not the least of which that it's far out of town, has a consolidated TSA line for ALL gates, requires a tram ride, has ONE gas station for refilling the rental and they charge an arm and a leg...etc. But I would still take it over a busy day at the Circle of Hell in SAN. The CoH is really the only drawback to SAN (okay so is the single runway)..but on any other carrier in both Terminals, SAN is easy. T2 International in particular is nice and brand spanking new. SAN is practically downtown and curb to gate is easy everywhere. T1 to T2 is walkable cubside.

But then again, the difference between T1 CoH and the new T2 is 50 years. You notice. CoH was built in 1967 for 60's level traffic..well before airport design included anything like ergonomics, clarity, and facilities considerations were a major thing.
I've actually found that the eastern half of T2 is fairly dark and cramped compared to the western half, probably because it's still in the older style. That said, it's easy enough to walk to the newer side and hang out there until boarding time.
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Old Jan 23, 2018, 9:16 am
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Southwest is merely a tenant!

After a miserable experience of going through TSA only to find out Gate 11 is part of the Alaska terminal. It’s not a southwest gate and it leases only when needed. after almost missing my flight, I followed up with the Southwest supervisor, Eric Santana. He effectively shrugged his shoulders and said, "the airport will not allow up to put up signage" and "Southwest is just a tenant, it's really the airport's fault". i was incredulous and asked, "aren't all airlines just tenants of airports?"... No apology, no awareness to the fact that it's southwest's responsibility to take care of its customers and to make sure it's customers know that there flight is operating out of a different terminal. Also, when a passenger is in the wrong place for no fault of their own, perhaps SW escorts them vs. making it the passenger's problem

My learning - avoid Southwest out of San Diego. After 4 years of A-list status, i am really done.

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Old Jan 23, 2018, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by scfanatic97
After 4 years of A-list status, i am really done.
Over that?! Ah well- I for one shall celebrate one fewer A-Lister to potentially compete with for standby slots out of SAN! But I'm surprised an A-Lister hasn't gone out of SAN enough times (I figure around "twice") to notice that: 1- T1 is G1-1A-2 and then G3-10 and, you know, 2- knows how to avoid infrequent-flyer mistakes like not reading their BP or signage for their departure gate.
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Old Jan 23, 2018, 4:30 pm
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Originally Posted by kennycrudup
Over that?! Ah well- I for one shall celebrate one fewer A-Lister to potentially compete with for standby slots out of SAN! But I'm surprised an A-Lister hasn't gone out of SAN enough times (I figure around "twice") to notice that: 1- T1 is G1-1A-2 and then G3-10 and, you know, 2- knows how to avoid infrequent-flyer mistakes like not reading their BP or signage for their departure gate.
thanks for the clarity on Gates 1 and 2. But that has nothing to do with my post. Wish I was as smart or as experienced as you
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Old Jan 23, 2018, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by scfanatic97
Wish I was as smart or as experienced as you
Well, we can't ALL be me!
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Old Jan 23, 2018, 4:46 pm
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On that note, it'd be interesting to find out what WN considers the MCT for SAN. I can't find anything offhand (only threads about DL and UA) but I'd imagine they'd add a bit more time considering the whole having to clear security again thing.
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Old Jan 26, 2018, 10:46 am
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Having started this thread back in November, I would just like to add my default name for SAN Southwest Terminal 1....The Doughnut of Despair.
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Old Oct 18, 2018, 10:37 am
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Well, I fell for this as well. And have been based out of San Diego for 12 years. I thought about protesting and sacrificing my companion status in anger.

But instead have decided to publicly flog myself for only paying attention to if I was going out of gate 1/2 and just happily automating my way in to gate 3-10 security even though my gate said 11. But lo and behold, precheck being what it is at San Diego it cost me one doughnut walk, then 5 minutes tops to exit and go back through the other side. Which included the random at the Metal detector and apparently that female officers aren’t allowed to swab your shoes while you are wearing them (what’s up with that?)

not sure how we will line up without our pillars of guidance... hard enough when they are there!
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Old Oct 18, 2018, 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by MacGuruTX
Well, I fell for this as well. And have been based out of San Diego for 12 years. I thought about protesting and sacrificing my companion status in anger.

But instead have decided to publicly flog myself for only paying attention to if I was going out of gate 1/2 and just happily automating my way in to gate 3-10 security even though my gate said 11. But lo and behold, precheck being what it is at San Diego it cost me one doughnut walk, then 5 minutes tops to exit and go back through the other side. Which included the random at the Metal detector and apparently that female officers aren’t allowed to swab your shoes while you are wearing them (what’s up with that?)

not sure how we will line up without our pillars of guidance... hard enough when they are there!
I had it even better. I had a connection at SAN. Arriving flight went into Gate 8. Bathrooms over at that area had lines. Boarding Pass said the connection was at Gate 11. I determined Gate 11 was the other side and was aware it required going through security again, so walked over there. Checked flight status on my phone to figure out when to go into security (knowing it is best to stay outside security at SAN as long as possible) and then learned the flight was moved over to Gate 1. Went over to that .... show. Only a few people in line at what looked like a well staffed security. But it still took about 10 minutes. Security is a joke with no pre check and they wanted everything out. Everyone else using it was pre check too and we all had to ask questions about what needs to go out, etc. Maybe that is our fault. There was literally no seating over there at that area by Gate 1. The bathrooms had lines there as well.

Southwest needs to address this for people with connections. Figure out a way to get people back behind the gates so they don't have to re-clear security, or something.
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Old Oct 18, 2018, 7:32 pm
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FWIW, the Men's room right against the PreCheck line for gates 3-10 is usually a ghost town. It's where I tend to pitstop anyway.
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 10:03 am
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I had gate 11 a few months back, and had only pulled an A50. However, as the integrity of the boarding system completely breaks down at Gate 11 due to there being no boarding group signage, it simply became a boarding group scrum. I think I actually did better than A50, but there is no way to know. Had I paid a BS fare instead of a WGA I would have been angry. There were some angry folks there too. All that said, it still beats the Circle of Hell. And even the Box of Hell that is Gate 1/1A/2
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by Proudelitist
All that said, it still beats the Circle of Hell. And even the Box of Hell that is Gate 1/1A/2
Isn't gate 11 still in a Circle of Hell? Just a different Circle of Hell.
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by tusphotog
Isn't gate 11 still in a Circle of Hell? Just a different Circle of Hell.
Well, it IS the same design. But it has a lower volume of travellers which makes it somewhat less hellish. I guess you could call it the "Circle of Purgatory"
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Old Oct 24, 2018, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by storewanderer
Southwest needs to address this for people with connections. Figure out a way to get people back behind the gates so they don't have to re-clear security, or something.
Agreed. A few years ago I had a connection in SAN (was flying PHX - PDX or SMF...can't remember). The inbound Phoenix flight was late and arriving into Gate 1. Had to leave out of 3-10 and got lucky when a FA from my inbound essentially escorted me to the front of the TSA line so I could get through security and get onto my connecting flight.

All that because I picked a connection in SAN so I could connect through the airport I grew up flying in and out of...
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Old Oct 29, 2018, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by kaller
Having started this thread back in November, I would just like to add my default name for SAN Southwest Terminal 1....The Doughnut of Despair.
IMO, Terminal one isn't absolutely horrible except for the lack of PreCheck at 1/1a and occasionally 11+.
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