WN going to Hawaii
Mar 21, 2018, 9:08 am
#256
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VS/AS and UA had a flash 1-day sale yesterdsy from sfo/lax/sjc to all the hawaii islands. I noticed this on the FT mileage run forum. I can only hope that the Southwest competition next year will make fare sales like this more common.
Apr 8, 2018, 6:10 am
#257
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WN applying to rent space in Hawaii airports.
What Southwest Airlines' application to rent space at Lihue
What Southwest Airlines' application to rent space at Lihue
Apr 13, 2018, 3:13 pm
#258
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I'm of the opinion some of these other carriers are doing flash sales or other incentives to take business off the table that might be waiting on SWA to start service. Not everybody can fly on a whim and some are seeing value in sales today vs maybe decent fares in the future. A lower fare on this carrier beats no fare that ends up on SWA. Potentially also taking business away from SWA the carrier could have been anticipating.
Apr 13, 2018, 3:37 pm
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I wholeheartedly support any and all AS flash sales to Hawaii! ^
Recently went to the Big Island...SAN-KOA was $169 per person each way.
Recently went to the Big Island...SAN-KOA was $169 per person each way.
Apr 14, 2018, 7:42 am
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I'm of the opinion some of these other carriers are doing flash sales or other incentives to take business off the table that might be waiting on SWA to start service. Not everybody can fly on a whim and some are seeing value in sales today vs maybe decent fares in the future. A lower fare on this carrier beats no fare that ends up on SWA. Potentially also taking business away from SWA the carrier could have been anticipating.
Apr 19, 2018, 4:23 pm
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I'm of the opinion some of these other carriers are doing flash sales or other incentives to take business off the table that might be waiting on SWA to start service. Not everybody can fly on a whim and some are seeing value in sales today vs maybe decent fares in the future. A lower fare on this carrier beats no fare that ends up on SWA. Potentially also taking business away from SWA the carrier could have been anticipating.
When Southwest loads its initial schedule, there will inevitably be another round of sales/competitive response.
Apr 19, 2018, 11:20 pm
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The bad news is IRROPS in HI can be tough.
Apr 20, 2018, 9:44 am
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Apr 20, 2018, 10:26 am
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Apr 21, 2018, 12:44 pm
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The problem I am hearing has to do with the mechanics union and negotiations. Im being told at this time WN is GTG except that the mechanics union is holding everything up. I was told little progress has been made concerning the Hawaii route as far as negotiations at this time.
The ETOPS certs are GTG
They are indeed going to use the Max aircraft. I hate the seats in those planes
Sorry I cant disclose sources, but they are high up at WN.
The ETOPS certs are GTG
They are indeed going to use the Max aircraft. I hate the seats in those planes
Sorry I cant disclose sources, but they are high up at WN.
Apr 21, 2018, 12:51 pm
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Price alone won't do it. Those are long flights and people coming from elsewhere have an even longer journey. There are a lot of people willing to pay for just a little bit of comfort such as E+ on UA.
Apr 21, 2018, 1:59 pm
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The problem I am hearing has to do with the mechanics union and negotiations. Im being told at this time WN is GTG except that the mechanics union is holding everything up. I was told little progress has been made concerning the Hawaii route as far as negotiations at this time.
The ETOPS certs are GTG
They are indeed going to use the Max aircraft. I hate the seats in those planes
Sorry I cant disclose sources, but they are high up at WN.
The ETOPS certs are GTG
They are indeed going to use the Max aircraft. I hate the seats in those planes
Sorry I cant disclose sources, but they are high up at WN.
Apr 22, 2018, 8:30 am
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That's a good question. (All of WN's 737-800s are new enough that they won't need an immediate fan blade inspection per new FAA criteria.)
Apr 22, 2018, 10:50 am
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But the FAA 20-day order is explicitly tied to manufacturer's guidance. CFM recommends inspections by the end of August for fan blades with 20,000 cycles and inspections to all other fan blades when they reach 20,000 cycles. It's impossible to rule out subsequent FAA directives.